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Edited by Ruin Tree:
10/5/2015 6:00:09 AM
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The Cayde Conspiracy
The Collector's Edition of Destiny: The Taken King contains a copy of Treasure Island, which contains a passage of personal experiences by Cayde-6. After reading this (thank you AnonPig), something monumental has clicked in my mind.
The short passage begins with Cayde's musings on wiping and reboots.
[quote]See, the reboots, they dont wipe it all away. Not everything. And the new life-plus the Light it does somehting real funny to what's left. Amplifies it, scrambles it, reshuffles the fragments like a dealers riffling a deck of cards, putting the hands we've already won and lost back into play.[/quote]
He spends much of this time wondering over flashbacks and memories, like the one below, which give incredible information into not only his background, but into that of the Exos.
[quote]Floating in the black.
Ive been listening to nothing but my heart knocking for over twelve hours. EMU's low on air. I promise myself this job is the last. Promise myself this time i mean it.
I feel the hull vibration through the station's thin metal skin. The airlock pump hisses. Long wait's over.
Clovis Bray sends me a bill for the hull damage... Surprise it's not just a bill. There's a job offer tucked in. Seems old Bray's been looking for someone like me. Willing to forgive my debt, and not just for the orbital station. All of it.
Suddenly, I aint so mad anymore.[/quote]
This section reveals some amazing info. First off, this takes place during the Golden Age, when Clovis Bray is in full swing. Second, Cayde has a heart and a breathing apparatus. Why would a robot need air and a heart? Anyway, Cayde takes the job at Clovis.
[quote]Saturn. No, someplace else. Someplace colder.
I came here flesh and bone.
Gave everything to the ice.
Started over
Rebooted.[/quote]
Cayde went to Saturn as [u]flesh and bone[/u], but he gave everything to the ice. He [u]rebooted[/u]. [b]Cayde was once a human[/b]. This is supported by the Ghost Fragment: Exo card:
[quote]Why are Exo minds human? What's the design imperative?
I think someone wanted to live forever.[/quote]
Exos were once humans. Every single one of them. It's possible that many humans had contingency plans in case of death, where their minds would be uploaded into Exo bodies through a subroutine known as Deep Stone Crypt. This is further supported by a sketch in this book of a face that is half human, half Exo, which a picture next to it of a pure Exo face. But on we march with Cayde.
[quote]Every big brain in the system has their sights set on the Academy.
We were there for the Ahamkara, parasite reptilian critters that appeared out of thin air. Inexpliciable genome, new protiens.
So much potential.
And me? I'm there for her, Dr. Maya Sundaresh. She's poured into the research on the brink of another breakthrough, focused on devouring every new data point.
Brilliant. Driven. Beautiful.[/quote]
So not only did Cayde work at Clovis Bray, but he also worked at the Ishtar Academy with a Dr. Maya Sundaresh. Curiouser and curiouser...
[quote]I'm out in plain sight. Sky is torn open and there's nothing and nobody left in this ruined world but me and the boiling shadow all around. Whatever it is hits me before i can level my gun. Doesnt matter. Tendrils of pain crawl over my splayed fingers, my outstreched arms, my shoulders, my neck, my screaming mouth as it consumes. I'm being enveloped. Everything is wrong. Primordial. My systems go sideways all but my sensors. It wants me to withness this, the world. It's world now suffocating in the black poison. I collapse.
We all collapse.[/quote]
Cayde, in his Exo form, was killed by the Darkness. Personally. He watched the Collapse happening, the Sol System suffocating in the Dark.
Let's think on what we know about Cayde now. He was a human, he worked at Clovis Bray and the Ishtar Academy, he knew Maya Sundaresh, he loves gambling and making bets, and he is one of the most lovable sarcastic little shits in the system
Hold up. Who else do we know that fits this same exact bill? Oh yeah... [b]Dr. Shim[/b]. Let's look at some info about Dr. Shim.
[quote]"Well I'll be a [profane] [profanity]. This is extremely [profane]. That thing has us over a barrel."
"I wish someone would simulate you shutting up."
"You two are adorable."
Shim makes a loud obnoxious awwww at them.
"I wish I could go back and change you into someone else."
"You would've hated it at Clovis. We both know you're happier here."
...two hundred and twenty-seven Dr. Shims making cynical bets with each other about how long they'll last...[/quote]
Dr. Shim and Cayde-6 seem to be two peas in a pod, don't they?
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9 RepliesEdited by Sportsfreak5022: 9/14/2015 10:27:26 PMThere's a very interesting theory that Maya was turned into the Exo Stranger, it was on reddit, he mainly used the Vex 4 grimoire card, however it was mostly conjecture and speculation it actually made a ton of sense. Other then us being Dr. Shim, Here's the link: https://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/397ph0/the_nature_of_the_exo/ Next read the comment by Logan LaMort, for his connection between the Exo Stranger and the FWC machine that can see into the future, or at least possible outcomes of the future. That being said, Dr. Shim is more likely then not Cayde-6. Now onto Maya Sandaresh being the Exo Stranger, she was pondering whether or not the Citadel could actually take her and her proxy body through time, to try and change events. This being said it would make sense that she as the "Exo Stranger" would agree to use the FWC machine, as it could allow her visions of the future, she could travel to the past, attempt to change the course of events, and then use it again to see if the timeline had changed. Now people are going to say that it might not be her, as they had repaired an Exo that they had found. What if they were tracking the actions of the FWC and simply put her body there, so they would use it for the experiment. They are time travelers after all they can be any place and time they wish to be. This could also imply that other scientists from the academy, are exos now. Now throwing out some other ideas that I had, gathered mostly from the Vex 3 and Vex 4 cards. (Be aware this is speculation on my part) The reason that we know about the Vault of Glass and had the whole original raid, was the fact that the Ishtar scientists had sent the 227 identical copies of themselves into the Vex network to investigate. When we enter the Ishtar Academy to defend it from the Fallen, when the mission ends, the ghost mentions a lot of useful information on the Vex network, and that it "mentions a place called the Vault of Glass." It is my theory that when the simulations of the scientists were exploring the vex networks they had come across the vault and went back to report on it, and this is why we hear about it in the archive. Next, in conjunction with your theory, I believe that Dr. Shim or Maya are the first or a few of the very first Exos. My theory is that, one of them had possibly died while they were connected to a proxy body, and in an effort to save that person, Rasputin had saved their consciousness permanently into the proxy body, to preserve them. Lastly, here is evidence of why Exos may need to be wiped, because as you may or may not know, the number following an exo's name indicates how many times it has had its system wiped. "Maya runs a hand across the surface of the Vex aperture, feeling it with sensors ten thousand times as precise as a human hand. These proxy bodies are limited— they crash and need resetting every few hours, they struggle with latency, they can't hold much long term memory. But they'll get better." This is an indication that, the proxy bodies were prototypes of the Exo's, or perhaps the earliest Exo's. Who better to become the first exo's or at least test them then the scientists that used them first, to explore the Citadel. Feel Free to post you thoughts or poke holes in anything.
