No one here's fighting or getting mad except for you. Why don't you address the OP instead of crying about why I made it?

Not mad, just tired of it. Address the OP? Why would I do that when it said nothing that people haven't been saying for years? When somebody can say something new, I'll see if I feel like addressing it. I probably won't though, because I don't care what people choose to believe in. People who make these posts are just looking for attention, not actual debate. It's the Internet, everybody here has seen the same argument dozens of times. Also, you're right, nobody is fighting here, just people calling others autistic and acting like they're superior for their beliefs. Such a great post man. I'd much rather have name calling and kids with inflated egos due to their beliefs, than fighting...wait, no, sorry, it's just as bad

Your entire post was salt. Do you have anything interesting to say, or are we done here?

Salt =/= angry. Of course you can't finish what you start. You say nobody is fighting, I tell you telling kids they're autistic is just as bad, you can't let go of the fact you think I'm mad. GG kid. You're a joke :) enjoy the free bumps I've given you since attention is the only reason you made the post :)

What if those people are spreading ideas that are based on their beliefs that are demonstrably harmful or wrong? Should we just stand by and let them?

Stay on topic, that's not even close to what I said. I said we should let each other believe what we want instead b of fighting about it, not that we should let people harm others and not intervene.

We get involved because a lot of these people [i]are[/i] causing harm. Trying to restrict rights for homosexuals is one obvious example. I don't know how you can claim I'm going off topic, this is definitely relevant.

No its not. I'll say it again, I said "let people believe what they want", not "let people harm others". I'm starting to think you have a reading comprehension problem, because I also didn't ask why you intervene. I said "...not that we should let people harm others and not intervene", not that we shouldn't intervene. I am not saying we should let people restrict others' rights or harm others, I'm saying we should let people BELIEVE what they want. Key word "BELIEVE". When you start harming others, you cross a line. But as I told the other guy, saying this shit on a gaming forum which is mostly filled with peaceful nerds not hell bent on restricting people's rights, is basically worthless and really just causes conflict and anger where there previously was none. If you're not going to properly read my posts, I'm not going to continue this conversation.

I am concerned about what people believe if those people believe things that negatively influence the way they treat others. If these beliefs are either demonstrably false or simply unproven, then I think we have a duty to point this out. There are a lot of people on these forums that, for example, think gay marriage is wrong. That is not something they can back up with empirical proof. I have every right to make my feelings about it known in an attempt to get them to act more reasonably. I'm sorry you don't seem to understand this.

Again, your lack of reading comprehension is showing. BELIEVING is different than ACTING. I don't give a shit if Billy Bob believes gay people are the scum of the earth and that they should die, as long as he doesn't ACT on those thoughts or use them to openly degrade others or restrict their rights (so basically as long as he treats gay people like every other human being and doesn't come to me and tell me "I hate gay people so much, you should too because this book says so"), I don't care what he BELIEVES. Also, yes, you do have a right to make your opinion about gay marriage known, I never said you didn't. My comment is aimed at people who just bash religion or people who bash those who aren't religious based on the fact they don't agree with them. Beliefs should not be a point of conflict as long as they are not harming anyone (I'm not saying they can't be debated, but they should not be used to spark angry, insult filled rants). Since you can't seem to understand what I'm saying, I'll give you an example: 1. A woman, lets call her Sarah, is religious and thinks gay marriage is bad. However, Sarah realizes that they are people too and should have the same rights as the rest of us so she votes for gay marriage (or chooses to abstain from voting). Sarah also does not talk down to gay people and treats them as equals. <---- I'm ok with this because although she believes gay marriage is bad, she is not trying to force her beliefs on anyone, is not trying to restrict their rights as humans, and does not use her beliefs to hurt or degrade them. 2. A woman, let's call her Kim Davis ;), is religious and refuses to give gay people their marriage license because she thinks gay marriage is wrong. <----- this I am not ok with because she is using her beliefs to restrict the rights of others and treats them as inferior humans. I hope you understand that I am saying I don't give a shit about a person's BELIEFS, I care about their ACTIONS. I do not like people who force their beliefs upon others or who use their beliefs to justify hurting others. I don't care if you believe in a giant spaghetti monster in the sky, as long as you don't try and force me to believe in the spaghetti monster or use your spaghetti monster book to hurt others. Keep your spaghetti monster (or lack thereof) to yourself. I can't believe I just basically repeated myself 3 times, each comment getting larger, just because you can't understand I'm differentiating between beliefs and actions. This is honestly ridiculous lol

>implying religion is benign

Not what I'm implying at all. I said we should let each other believe whatever we want, I didn't say we should let people cause harm to others. Yeah, religion has caused a lot of problems, but I don't see how letting Tim from down the street believe in god is hurting you or anybody else. Yeah, obviously people like the Westboro Baptist church are -blam!-ing extremists, but that doesn't mean everybody who believes in god is. Wars have been started because of religion, yeah, but not everybody who is "religious" wants to start a war about it. By making posts like this on a gaming forum, you're doing nothing for the world because the people who are starting wars and forcing their beliefs upon others are never going to change. Who cares if -blam!-ing xXMLG ScrublordXx believes in god as long as he's not forcing his opinion on you or hurting anybody? You're never going to rid the world of religion, so I don't see why you're going after those who aren't hurting anybody instead of going after those who do.

Who said we can't purge the world of religion?

You can try, but it's never going to happen. You're delusional if you think it will. But, if that's what you wish to do, I guess all I can do is wish you good luck in your endeavors. Have a nice day :)

I'm delusional for trying to bring the world out of the Bronze Ages? Ok bye apologist

I didn't say you were delusional for trying, I said your delusional for thinking you'll succeed. Man, what is with you people and your reading comprehension? I got one of you morons not being able to distinguish the difference between the word "belief" and "action" and now I got you who literally just put words in my mouth. Man, if you really want to rid the world of religion, I would say the first step is learning how to read so you can properly converse with those you wish to convince. Edit: fixed a couple auto correct errors