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9/6/2015 6:40:15 AM
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I know it's just a waste of time to point this out, but the Bible proves its own validity and origin of life honestly isn't sound at all.
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The revaluation point? Yeah, follows the Mayan thought process as well if you look it up. I'm studied; very much so, In most major religions and cultures. My mother taught me that I wasn't allowed to have an opinion about anything I didn't know about personaly... so I learned to read... a lot. I was raised catholic. but when the majority of Christians prayed with closed eyes and ears; and cast judgment upon me for things I did in my life, Muslims forgave me. I learned the true meaning of humbleness and caring about your fellow man. Christians have finite wealth and do so very little to help their fellow man. While Muslims share everything within their communities. If one man has food, they all do... if one man has shelter, they all do. I fought a war around them for 6 years. And I that time, they were more loving towards my brothers and I than any American was or ever has been towards us. I don't care what a man calls his god, as I don't pray to any of them. But his actions do matter, and most Christians sin all week and think they can make it all better by praying every sunday. In closing, Christians have no proof... it's all based off other cultures beliefs and molded into a brain washing scheme. (Ever heard of the crusades?) In fact no religion has proof, a muslim taught me that. He said to me "6 billion men in this world, and 6 billion points of view... we can't all be right, but we could all be wrong. I'd rather die having lived as a kind loving man, and be wrong. Than live forever as an evil one and have been right." It's about teaching you right and wrong, about not hurting others, but forgiving them... not about praying and being righteous.
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No, it doesn't, idiot. That's circular logic right there. That's like saying a Spider-Man comic is proof of Spider-Man.
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Read below
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Comic book = proof of superman
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I didn't say that just because it exists it's true. There are 2 main reasons: 1 is the fact that over 400 years, individual books were written by people of various ages, occupations, and social classes, yet the theme is consistent throughout. The second (and more important) reason is the Bible's prophecies. There were many small prophecies written by someone that became part of the OT which were later recognized and pointed out by people writing the NT, not to mention Revelations, which is coming true currently.
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All "prophecies" will come true given enough time. When it describes the time frame in which it happens, then it's actually telling the future
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Not all prophecies come true if they're specific enough.
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[quote]I didn't say that just because it exists it's true. There are 2 main reasons: 1 is the fact that over 400 years, individual books were written by people of various ages, occupations, and social classes, yet the theme is consistent throughout.[/quote] How is agreement proof of divinity? [quote]The second (and more important) reason is the Bible's prophecies. There were many small prophecies written by someone that became part of the OT which were later recognized and pointed out by people writing the NT, not to mention Revelations, which is coming true currently.[/quote] How many of the less vague ones are confirmed through other third party works?
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I'll admit that it's not proof of divine involvement, but it's still an unlikely coincidence of it's not truly inspired by God. Most haven't been confirmed by another source because nobody else cared or read the Torah. But again, Revelations is happening right now and it's far from vague.
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If they haven't been proved by another source then we don't know if it's credible or not. Tell me more about Revelations.
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Revelations is written in "prophetic language," so you have to look at other places in the Bible to decipher the symbolism. This video is the most relevant, but any of his could probably work (although many of the previous videos were about a prophecy in Daniel). I apologize for the length, though.
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Too long for me to watch right now. Added it to watch later so I'll probably get to it tonight.
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Ok, yeah sorry about the length.
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Lol no problem. I'm sure I'll gain some insight from watching it so it'll be worth it.
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[quote]Comic book = proof of superman[/quote]tis tru
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The bible proves it's own validity? Well... it was written by people. And Harry potter was written by people... so by your logic, I should try to get into hogwarts and learn magic. A book proves nothing. Literally... nothing. In fact, I can use written history from that time period to prove it. You argue that the scrawny and lazy king David killed a nearly 7 ft tall hardened warrior in full bronze armor, using a slingshot... a pebble hitting a bronze helm... nope not fatal. Wouldn't even tickle. They're stories bro, fake ass stories to give you hope... nothing more. Not saying don't have faith for the sake of hope, but don't do it so close mindedly
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I'm not taking sides here, but David did not use a simple slingshot that you might let your kid play with. What he used could have very well knocked a man out. Think more of a rock the size of your fist being slung around and then thrown at high speed. That's the best I can describe it. He also killed him by chopping off his head btw.
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Edited by Chaddercheese16: 9/6/2015 3:53:51 PMI didn't say that just because it exists it's true. There are 2 main reasons: 1 is the fact that over 400 years, individual books were written by people of various ages, occupations, and social classes, yet the theme is consistent throughout. The second (and more important) reason is the Bible's prophecies. There were many small prophecies written by someone that became part of the OT which were later recognized and pointed out by people writing the NT, not to mention Revelations, which is coming true currently. I do appreciate that you're at least sort of open to faith though.
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There are MANY far older religious texts... so that argument is out. As is saying it's written by different people. 1 man could write down 30 names. Edgar Allen POE for instance had 4 alias'.... but hey, what do I know. Fact is it is a book, nothing more.
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It's a fact that the scrolls that made the Bible were written at different times. Scientists proved that shit.
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1) I never said it was valid because it was old. 2) Technically that might be possible, but that's over-the-top skepticism. 3) You can't just ignore the last part... That's what I said was the strongest argument.
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Mayan had prophecies too btw. Even older than christians. And they have all come true as well. In fact many theologists belive that those "prophecies" were added in by the Spanish after finding Mayan prophecies. But hey... what do I know
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Could you give a link for these prophecies?
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Bad analogy. While I'm not into Christian beliefs this is a poorly thought out argument. They did a special on npr which went over the details of the encounter and it's validity. If I cared a little more I'd link it, but the summary comes down to this. Goliath wasn't even close to being in control of this fight. Goliath was, in fact, the underdog in this story, didn't even stand a chance at winning. when you math hammer the density of the rock where the battle is claimed to take place and the strength at which David (who was by no means scrawny) could throw the rock the power comes pretty close to that of a small caliber firearm. Slings wreak shit like it's their job. Do the research and you'll see how silly your claim is.
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Seems like pointless speculation on both sides.
