Lately, I've been seeing tons of illogical arguments that christians have been trying to use to prove the existence of God. I haven't seen one valid argument for God, and I'm getting quite tired of destroying the same feeble arguments over and over again, so I thought I'd take the most common ones and take them apart, so that you people can finally stop using them.
[quote][i]You can't prove that God isn't real. [/i][/quote]
This is a logical fallacy. The burden of proof lies on the person claiming the positive (religious people), not us. If you believe God is real, it's your job to provide evidence. Furthermore, we also can't prove that there isn't a magic green monkey flying around Jupiter, but that isn't a valid reason to believe he's there.
[quote][i]The Bible is proof of God[/i][/quote]
No. Just, no. Anyone who uses a Bible verse to support the existence of God is insane. That's like saying that a Spider-Man comic is proof of spider man.
[quote][i]Do you really think that all life could have arisen from a series of coincidences?[/i][/quote]
Anyone who says this needs to do a bit more research. Yes, there were many requirements for life to arise on earth, but you're not considering how large the universe is, and how many times shit has gone wrong. Statistically speaking, the natural evolution of life on earth is very possible, and there is almost certainly other life out there.
[quote][i]Well, science doesn't fully understand 'X' yet, therefore God must have done it.[/i][/quote]
Just because we don't understand something yet doesn't mean we won't in the future, and to instantly assume that everything is Gods work is a very closed-minded way of looking at things.
[quote][i]It's called having faith.[/i][/quote]
No. Faith is the intentional suppression of critical thinking skills. It is in no way a valid reason to believe anything.
[quote][i]The second law of thermodynamics states that systems become less and less organized. That means that evolution and the Big Bang go against this law. Therefore, God is responsible for the creation of earth and life on earth[/i][/quote]
This isn't true. The second law of thermodynamics only applies to isolated (closed) systems. The earth is in no way a closed system. This argument really just shows ignorance on whoever uses it's part.
[quote][i]Theres nothing to lose by not believing in him, and eternal paradise if you do. (Pascal's Wager).[/i][/quote]
This is a horrible argument for a number of reasons. First, who says the Christian God is real? There are hundreds of different Gods out there, so why not believe in them too, just to be safe? Secondly, do you really think an omniscient God won't figure out that the only reason you believed in him was because you wanted to go to heaven? Pascal's wagers is one of the worst arguments ever. Period.
Note: This next one was actually an argument on this very thread. Try not to die of laughter.
[quote][i]http://thetruthwins.com/archives/dna-results-for-the-nephilim-skulls-in-peru-are-in-and-the-results-are-absolutely-shocking
We have angel skulls, therefore God exists.
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This one made me laugh so hard. The link basically just says that the skulls were from an unknown human-like creature, probably some sort of primate. The guy who sent me this instantly jumped from "unknown human-like mammal" to "Angel skulls". I literally can't even right now.
These are only a few of the arguments that I can remember off the top of my head, but I know I'm missing a ton. Post them below, and I'll destroy them and add them to the OP. Help me spread education and awareness to Offtopic, one post at a time.
Purse, out.
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If I remember correctly you said you wanted to make a nuclear bomb that only effects Christians and Jewish people. I think you should try to find God.
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I know that just about all of you are going to chastise me for "not having physical proof". [spoiler]Luckily I believe in a spiritual God ;)[/spoiler] As a Christian, when you accept and believe that The Lord died for you and your sins, you become filled with the Holy Spirit. I can't explain this myself, but it gives you an inner peace. You all are going to say that this feeling is a misconception of what I [b]want[/b] to believe, rather than what I [b]actually[/b] feel. But I know that this isn't true. I know God is real when every morning I wake up, I know and feel that I'm not alone on this life. That my lord and savior is with me to forgive me and love me.
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Well I believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster my self
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Religion is about faith, you're not supposed to need evidence. Also, why do you feel the need to shove your beliefs down other people's throats? If you don't believe in it, then let others believe what they want. What's wrong if they do believe in it anyway? It won't hurt you, and if they are wrong then they simply end up the same as you.
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Huh, missed one.
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Are you using physical things to measure spiritual? Lol. That's like taking the measure of a temperature with a tape measure.
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You're 17. Arguments invalid.
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There's no way to disprove him either no one knows how the universe was made or what was before it God is a theory just like the big bangs a theory
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[quote]The burden of proof lies on the person claiming the positive[/quote]Top kek nice try. Burden of proof lies on the claimant, whatever the claim is. If I said 'The sun does not exist' it is up to me to prove it; the fact you hold the positive position makes no difference.
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If I give you 201.50$ will you stop?
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Muted.
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Edited by Guilty Spark: 9/7/2015 6:04:59 AMIs this all you do post cancerous hateful posts? If people want to live believing in a perspective different than yours who cares wrong or not its their lives. Get a life and stop being such a prick.
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It's honestly pretty funny how you took the time to look all this up and type it all out... Just to attack Christians that believe in a God that you are so desperately trying to convince people doesn't exist. You are looking for physical proof of a spiritual God. Smh. Maybe, you should find something better to do in your spare time. Just a thought.
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Can you PROVE a god/creator isn't real? If not, then why not just be neutral on the topic instead of trying to bash people's beliefs.
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U are so right. I personally hate crowd control.
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Lol what an edgy teenager
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Edited by Kevin5190: 9/6/2015 5:52:31 PM> OP says religion is dragging down the human race. > OP posts hateful comments to people for disagreeing with him. > Some of the people OP thinks are stupid or ignorant have beliefs that are against harboring hatred towards people and have respect for others' beliefs. > Seems like they are contributing more to humanity IMO.
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Holy shit, Purse. You're evolving.
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I know it's just a waste of time to point this out, but the Bible proves its own validity and origin of life honestly isn't sound at all.
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You seem confused Purse. I will try to help you out of it. Do you remember being born or anything prior to that? if i dont then you dont or anyone else, save for a select few who cant forget things up to the sounds of their mothers womb but no further back, as for the rest of us we forget what we wore or ate a month ago or even sooner for some and yes sure some points in our life we remember all our days but the overriding trait for all of us is the fact that we are creatures stuck in the now unable to go back into the past or faster into the future than the unraveling of time will allow, no one can say this is how it started and this is how it ends so we use our sensory inputs to collect data given to us by something bigger than ourselves the universe around us that includes the people around us and the data they collected. Which brings my rambling to a close no matter what it is we all believe or put our faith into someone or something it could be myself and data i collected or scientists and the obvious or not so obvious things they point out it could even be the president of the united states of america and the rule of law but some of us through out history have been made to understand that all of these are the same a bunch of lost and confused people no different than ourselves. then if you're still with me and would believe it the Lord God sent Jesus into this world to give you the prove you seek but in order to receive that proof you would have to do what he called for you to do wash yourself of your old ways your old understandings your old beliefs and truly receive him, the Lord gave us ten commandments Christ summed them up into two commands two orders two things to do what other man or god has set such few rules to be like them and keep their favor but The Lord God knows us and our forgetful nature 1 love The Lord Your God with everything you have 2 Love your neighbor like Yourself God Bless You & Keep You Purse And Anyone Else Who Reads This the bible is not just a book filled with history or fairy tales or legends but IT IS THE LIVING WORD
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Ayy Purse is at it again.