What canon are you going on about? I have never heard this force doesn't count argument. Also I just explained that combining the standing armies of the star wars universe along with the flash cloning of the empire (insta-meh soldiers) would give Star Wars the numbers advantage.
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For some one rooting for Star Wars you seem to be missing some key lore points. Extra galactic life meaning life from outside of the Galaxy isn't directly affected by the force if you've never read the Yuzan Vong story arch you should. Being from another galaxy they are on a different 'frequency' to those of the Star Wars universe (I.e life in their Galaxy wasn't created nor does it contains midiclorians they basically exist outside of the force) Hence why force abilities have no direct effect force push/pull lighting choke hell even battle meditation doesn't work with them. The only way to hurt them via the force was to use the force to pick up say a boulder and squash them with it. Basically making the Jedi and Soth nothing more then excellent saber fighters. Which is still true Except knights have plasma swords which are basically the same thing. As for the clones true the process got refined and became quicker but nowhere near insta clones they still took weeks to mature while Knights and other forerunner armies are grown overnight.
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The vong were outside the force spiritually. This had nothing to do with their location. It was more like a natural resistance. Even if it did have to do with their planet, how would this negate the force in the halo universe?
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Edited by Leo687: 9/5/2015 3:47:47 AMSeeing as both halo and Star Wars are from separate galaxies and Halo doesn't have a force like binding energy I feel it safe to Say they would be 'spiritually' outside of the force. Also no offence but you are the first one to say that they were spiritually outside of it instead of the fact that they have no connection with it what so ever.
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Edited by MR Stickabee: 9/5/2015 1:57:17 PMLightning and Sith net effects the vong. Characters strong in the force can influence them with other force moves like push or choke just to a lesser degree. The Star Wars universe isn't taking a field day to the halo universe. Each fiction completely overlaps the other. All of super weapon, aliens, sci-fi, magics, shield systems, etc. are transferring. This force is overpowered argument sounds weak and desperate. Star Wars is better than Halo
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Ah so you want a biased fight in the sense that Halo's races are now members of the Star Wars universe and influenced by the force. Well if you can't bow to the canon of your own universe then I quit this debate with you. (Also if you wanted an easy win you could have pointed out that the force doesn't affect biological extra galactic life hence why it DOESNT work on the Vong,their ships,weapons or armour as all are biological in nature. Nothing was said of inorganic's such as Forerunner ships,Knights etc.)
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Not biased so much as anything goes
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Also, the force does not work on ONE extra galactic race due to a series of events involving a planet with hyperdrives, 2 armies of angry robots and a species of crazy death-cult/anti tech ninja men.
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Halo's universe has no force nor midiclorians therefore the races exist outside of the force and its influence.
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Until you bring Star Wars to them