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Let's save everyone some time and energy: Please cite the biblical passages that say a Christian should deny goods and services to homosexuals.
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  • Looks like nobody actually answered this. Anyone care to tackle it?

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  • [quote]Looks like nobody actually answered this. Anyone care to tackle it?[/quote]

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  • Cite the US law that requires issuing marriage licenses to homosexuals.

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  • [quote]No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.[/quote] 14th Amendment, Section 1.

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  • Lol rekt 'em

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  • [quote][quote]No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.[/quote] 14th Amendment, Section 1.[/quote] The ruling referencing that was used to strike down DOMA, it did not provide any provisions for marriage (hetero or homosexual). Try again, I'll simplify. [quote]Cite the US law that requires issuing marriage licenses[/quote]

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  • [quote]Cite the US law that requires issuing marriage licenses[/quote]Well considering marriage is a state-governed institution, there is no federal law outlining how states should issue marriage licenses. However, under the 14th Amendment, a marriage license that is issued in one state must also be legal in another, and that includes gay marriage licenses. Coupled with the fact that the same amendment is used to determine that states cannot deny certain groups from obtaining marriage licenses, the 14th Amendment remains the answer to your question. And let me remind you that you still didn't answer my question about citing the bible verse.

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  • [quote][quote]Cite the US law that requires issuing marriage licenses[/quote]Well considering marriage is a state-governed institution, there is no federal law outlining how states should issue marriage licenses.[/quote] So states can do what they want regarding marriage so long as no specific group is excluded. [quote]However, under the 14th Amendment, a marriage license that is issued in one state must also be legal in another, and that includes gay marriage licenses. [/quote] No. It does not. That is a reciprocity agreement between states, the amendment ruling prohibited the exclusion of sodomite marriage. A state can still reject marriage as a whole, not issuing any or recognizing any marriage licenses. There are no federal laws requiring states to offer or recognize this service. [quote]Coupled with the fact that the same amendment is used to determine that states cannot deny certain groups from obtaining marriage licenses, the 14th Amendment remains the answer to your question. [/quote] So long as the states -blam!- over everyone equally, offering no marriage services, it is in line with the ruling and amendment. [quote] And let me remind you that you still didn't answer my question about citing the bible verse.[/quote] No need to, sodomy is a failed social experiment that has been the hallmark of the decline for every civilization throughout history that embraced it.

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  • Get rekt bud

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  • [quote]No need to[/quote]So I have to answer your questions, but you don't have to answer mine? Must be nice to live in your world.

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  • Dammit Max, you just killed my T-Rekt on Ark: Survival Evolved.

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  • Fukn rekt 10/10 IGN.

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  • Not goods in services. This situation is unique because marriage is believed by Christians to be an institution of God. Since homosexuality is wrong based on The Bible, then it would be wrong by Christian standards to issue them marriage licenses.

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  • [quote]Not goods in services.[/quote]Then they have no grounds to complain [quote]This situation is unique because marriage is believed by Christians to be an institution of God[/quote]They're confusing matrimony with marriage. Marriage is an institution of the government. Matrimony is religious. If marriage is religious, only religious people should marry. [quote]Since homosexuality is wrong based on The Bible, then it would be wrong by Christian standards to issue them marriage licenses. [/quote]Then it's equally as wrong to issue marriage licenses to [u]any [/u]sinners.

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  • [quote]Then they have no grounds to complain[/quote] On what grounds do you say this? [quote]They're confusing matrimony with marriage. Marriage is an institution of the government. Matrimony is religious. If marriage is religious, only religious people should marry.[/quote] You take that up with them, the Bible says Marriage not matrimony so you go argue with God about that one. [quote]Then it's equally as wrong to issue marriage licenses to [u]any [/u]sinners.[/quote] Not exactly, the Bible says that there is grounds for forgiveness. She can't decipher from a look that they have or haven't repented. But she can easily spot a homosexual who is unrepentantly and knowingly disobeying God in the eyes of her Religion.

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  • [quote]On what grounds do you say this?[/quote]Because if the Bible doesn't forbid selling your goods or services to gays, I'm not sure what she's objecting to with regards to her religion.

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  • Okay let me rephrase this: The Bible says that Homosexuals don't have the right to be married. That's the basis on her religion she's objecting on.

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  • [quote]The Bible says that Homosexuals don't have the right to be married. [/quote]Where?

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  • Glad you asked. 22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. 26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing … 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,

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  • [quote][quote] [quote]The Bible says that Homosexuals don't have the right to be married. [/quote]Where?[/quote]Glad you asked. 22 You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. 26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing … 24 Therefore a man shall leave his father and his mother and hold fast to his wife, and they shall become one flesh. 2 But because of the temptation to sexual immorality, each man should have his own wife and each woman her own husband. 9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,[/quote]Please underline the portion that says to deny gays your goods or services.

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  • Edited by Andy: 9/4/2015 3:54:19 AM
    soooo basically 90% of all humans won't get into heaven. the fact that you would quote a fictional passage instead of treat someone as a decent human being is reason enough to ignore everything you posted

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