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9/3/2015 5:01:43 AM
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If an energy dissipates with range(ALL energy does), it can also be shielded from or cancelled out.
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Star Wars doesn't have the tech to shield from the rings, so anyone in the kill zone is dead.
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The death star is RAY shielded WITH blast/ impact armor of super dense alloy a FEW KM thick! (Ray shields divert/absorb ALL incoming energy wavelengths from penetration)
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The energy is effective within the galaxy. Your shield won't do much. Even then, antimatter charge inside is kill.
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RAY shields; They cancel out/divert ALL energy wavelengths along their surface. NO ENERGY WEAPON can penetrate a sufficient RAY SHIELD.
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The shield only protects the outside. The antimatter charge will easily destroy the inside, and knock that shield out.
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To get to the INSIDE you have to go THROUGH the ray shields! Then penetrate several layers of 1KM thick super dense alloy! E=mc^2 You need sufficient anti matter material to annihilate ALL of the blast/impact armor BEFORE you can hurt ANYTHING inside Sufficient being the quantity determined by e=mc^2 vs the material and density of the blast/impact armor: Best bet would be an energy coated anti mater focused round/charge, if it could penetrate the shield the anti matter projectile could put a SMALL hole in the blast armor layers but alas the Halo shot is OMNI DIRECTIONAL and via the law of entropy; The energy shot from it dissipates with the square of the distance relative to its own charge, any anti matter charge would ALSO dissipate the same way unless it was anti matter itself vs a charged anti matter energy field. If actual anti matter the blast wave follows the laws of ballistics but in the void of space would keep its initial speed unless it impacts anything and disperse omnidirectional evenly. No matter by it self can travel faster than the speed of light. (Needs an energy warp field or to be in a hyperspace field to do so) The Halo blast wave can EASILY be out run by the death star; the death star has THE SLOWEST hyper drive of ANY star wars ship due to its size; that drive STILL propels it over a million times FASTER than the speed of light!
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Read Halo: Silentium by Greg Bear, your whole argument is -blam!-ed.
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An how is a story going to change the laws of PHYSICS? (Neutrinos dont interact with matter at all unless they pass through enough material; material equivalent needed is MORE than a solid LIGHT YEAR of LEAD btw)
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We're arguing about HALO VS. STAR WARS! Why would real physics apply in an any way?
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Idk maybe cuz the force aside, star wars doesnt break physics (yea no sound in space sure; movie woulda been WAAAY more boring tho.)
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That is highly debatable. I've seen what you did with the other guy, and I really don't want to get into an argument with you, so goodbye.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 9/4/2015 11:03:34 PMThe other guy didnt know what energy actually was. He was arguing quantum and cosmological physics with out knowing basic science; an after pointing out he was flat out wrong several dozen times he kept goin an claiming he was correct; any one who knows science could see he was wrong. Sorry but yea that really got to me personally an yea i may have taken it a bit far; If your not an ignorant fool then you got nothing to worry about. But yea if u want to be done thats fine. Agree to disagree is a perfectly acceptable result and thank you for taking the high road in that regard.
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And to be fair, he really didn't know his science.
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Thank you for allowing this to end peacefully.
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And that is when slipspace comes in. You see, it isn't likely that they would detonate the rings right away. They would send in strike teams. Plus, every shield in the star wars universe is made to deal with energy rounds, not physical. This means they could fire MAC rounds to destroy defense turret, then send in broadsword teams and pelican teams to clear out the inside and out, then deactivate shields. Evacuate everyone, then activate a composer.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 9/3/2015 1:02:40 PMNo star wars shields ARE MAINLY for debris and micro meteor and asteroid strike prevention. Droideka shields will stop ANY FAST MOVING OBJECT (energy charge or laser) so lone as the force behind it IS NOT greater than the field strength. And thats A PERSONAL shield Hyperspace is a type of sub or slip-space. A galaxy gun can take out a small moon from 1/2 a system (large) away.
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Edited by CybrWyteTygr: 9/3/2015 1:14:58 PM[quote]No star wars shields ARE MAINLY for debris and micro meteor and asteroid strike prevention. Droideka shields will stop ANY FAST MOVING OBJECT (energy charge or laser) so lone as the force behind it IS NOT greater than the field strength. And thats A PERSONAL shield Hyperspace is a type of sub or slip-space. A galaxy gun can take out a small moon from 1/2 a system (large) away.[/quote] Yeah, a mac round is a bullet about 1 foot in diameter at least, propelled over at least 10 times the speed of sound. Your death star shield won't do much good when it's made for debris and asteroids. Plus, that cannon is not made for the distance the attack would be from. Also, slipspace is wormholes. Hyperspace is propulsion. Edit: Droideka shields haven't dealt with a railgun. The. Star wars energy blast are so slow compared to that of a real gun even.
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Speed of sound 7,000 MPH (10x700 mph) Speed of an asteroid (avg in our solar system) 40,000 MPH Your an idiot
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Edited by CybrWyteTygr: 9/3/2015 1:18:46 PMAt least. Ship mac cannons can get to 50+ Plus constant bombardment.
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Asteroid avg size;100km diameter avg mass; couple 100,000 tons Avg speed 40,000 mph 100,000* 40,000= 40000000000 newtons of force (on average) How heavy is a mac round?
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He's not the best guy to argue for halo. But MAC rounds vary from the ship they sport. They range from 600 tons to 3000 tons. Check the halo wikia for an accurate devastating estimates on their power.
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A mac round by slower speed an less weight is STILL 10,000-1,000,000x LESS force than an asteroid even at 600-3000 tons each on mac rounds
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Thermodynamic expansion and sheer kinetic energy alone would obliterate the shields. And it fires every 2-3 seconds lol (Super MAC odp) But that's not what I'll base the destruction of your shitty little Death Star off of. It's the sentinels... 1000 sentinels far exceed the destructive capability of the Death Star. Keep in mind that there are trillions of them and when they Conjoin their Firepower and forunner shields amplify [b]exponentially[/b]. Death Star would be a molten slag heap. None of the point defense systems or the actual primary weapon would breach their extremely overpowered shields.
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Edited by DarthBrando: 9/8/2015 12:05:21 PMAlso keep in mind EACH SENTINEL is ONLY equipped with a heavy laser cannon (its not even on par with a TURBO laser from a capital ship in STAR WARS when fired in CONJUNCTION with others. And COVENANT vessels DONT have ray shielding (or to my knowledge ANY energy shields of ANY kind). I will run the actual numbers and account for thermal dynamics (though with a LASER or ENERGY based weapon the initial impact IS the strongest part of the reaction; lets not forget ENTROPY) ---> death star vs sentinel array An yea MAC rounds under SUSTAINED fire Might be on par with an asteroid impact but you would need to sustain fire FOR SOME TIME! (Keep in mind ANY asteroid impact is 500x MORE force/blast produced than A NUCLEAR WARHEAD of same YEILD!)
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You misread.. Sentinel fire conjoined increases exponentially. Under the surface of onyx thousands of them firing in different directions destroyed the entire planet. Which in includes crust mantle core etc. which is far thicker than you 1 km Death Star armor. All covenant vessels have a primitive form of forunner energy shielding.. And primitive compared to the actual shields of the forunners they are quite strong. Standard shielding on a CCS class battle cruiser is sufficient to stop 3-4 plasma torpedoes then the nanolomite armor they use could tank two plasma torpedoes.. Ok back to the actual fight.. I'd say that 5000 sentinels conjoined would reduce the Death Star into a slag heap. Their firepower and defense skyrocket exponentially.. I'd say their combined fire would be on par with a gamma ray burst.. Death Star is dead. Accept it..
