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Dumb AI also can reason, just Smart ones are much more capable and better at it. If your saying C3PO is on the same level as a Dumb AI, no. Dumb AIs are far more complex than a protocol droid.
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  • C3p0 is fluent in 6 billion languages/communication forms, can compute intense logic sequences, carry out menial tasks, recognize objects and individuals, handle diplomacy himself and more Compared to any of the assassin droids or bounty hunter droids hes a total moron though

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  • The UNSC haven't encountered 6 billion dialects yet, and the AIs can decifer any dialect just by encoutering it. Plus 3PO had those languages programed into him. Hes just a walking roseta stone.

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  • Im aware but like i said 3p0 isnt any where near the smartest droid the SWU offers. The data droids at the jedi temple can do similar things. Check out the deleted scenes from ep2 when obi takes the kaminoan saberdart to be analyzed

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  • I remember that, but aren't those just memory banks being acessed. Its practicality the future google.

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  • Thats what an ANDROID is; Independently thinking AI contained in a standalone system bound by its programming with access to any reference materials or programing it is given; Having logic minded AI almost ALL have 10k to 1billion times the aptitude for pattern recognition and decrypting vs a normal super genius human being And thats just a simple explanation and it applies to 3p0 as well.

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  • Thats what i would describe as a VI(virtual intelligence) , I see (smart) AIs as fully aware of things, having a personality, being self preserving, and haveing emotions such as loyalty, love, hate, fear, and so on. And most of the feelings arent programmed, they grow and are discovered as the AI grows as a being.

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  • Right but i mean 3p0 and r2d2 as well as all but like the gonk droids an binary encoded droids all pretty much are self aware: obey asimov's 3 laws of robotics and have their own personalities as well as being functional logic and computational machines.

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  • From what ive seen, i would agree with r2 being more self aware based on his feelings he displays, like his loyalty with Skywalker

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  • Asimovs 3 laws of robotics: 1 a robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm. 2 a robot must obey orders given it by human beings except where such orders would conflict with the First Law. 3 robot must protect its own existence as long as such protection does not conflict with the First or Second Law. Now granted battle droids have a few exceptions but still. As far as self aware goes: Self-awareness is the capacity for introspection and the ability to recognize oneself as an individual separate from the environment and other individuals.[1] It is not to be confused with consciousness in the sense of qualia. While consciousness is a term given to being aware of one’s environment and body and lifestyle, self-awareness is the recognition of that awareness.[2] So yea aside from gonks and other binary programed industrial droids; SW droids are self aware an most non combat ones obey the 3 laws.

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  • Huh, well im thinking of software (AI), not hardware(droids/robots). Would there be a difference with that?

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  • Kinda the SW droids droids being short for androids implies they have AI OS software an they kinda have to cuz: They are aware of their environment and can recognize individuals and objects in that environment They are androids ant they know that they are androids and they can tell each other apart so; They are both conscious and self aware With out onboard AI OS they would just be computers and non mobile objects only capable of performing simple functions. Take a robotic vacuum cleaner (real life) for example: it can move through the environment but not identify actual things inside that environment and it has no idea what itself actually is so; It is only semi conscious and not self aware at all. Vs 3p0 and r2d2: Those two can identify objects and individuals in their environment, they can tell each other apart as individuals and they both are aware of exactly what they are; So they are both conscious and self aware. Does that help?

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  • Strangely yes, but can the SW universe droids( R2 for example) upload a part of themself to a system? Not just commands like unlocking doors, but rather being able to digitally explore a system with their perspective.

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  • Some what: when R2 interfaces with a computer node his on board software sends communication cmd code strings to the network he is interfacing with and vice versa: Its like plugging your computer into the internet or a lan network and then sending a text or chat message. Your computer's Operating System never leaves your terminal node (pc) but allows you to communicate with the network and vice versa. And like your computer's OS and the fire wall protecting your computer from un authorized attacks or communications from the network; Droids have a semi physical separation from their main functional AI OS and the software they use to communicate with computer network interfaces.

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  • Right. But how fast can they process the information then?

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  • Edited by DarthBrando: 9/1/2015 6:14:39 AM
    Well its like a text or chat msg in principle but its waaaay different. When R2 interfaces with a computer network that has an on board AI (like the cloud city network that told him the falcons hyperdrive was disabled) he talks to the AI within the network to find what he needs or do what hes trying to do. When R2 interfaces with a network with no AI (like the death star computer imperial network) he has to go through the file structure of the network to find what hes looking for or do what hes trying to do. When R2 interfaces with a binary machine node (open a door or activate industrial machinery) he has to go through the program functions of the device to activate the one he wants to in order to open the door or shut down or activate something. Speed depends on size and organization of the network and R2's processor rate

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  • The three laws of robotics dont apply to true AI. Its the AIs own morals and thoughts that affects their actions

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  • As far as i know, most "AIs" have some for of reason. If not then its a VI.

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