[quote] There were a total of 18 total Halo Rings, the original 12 of which could fire in a linear pattern and be used as intergalactic artillery. Their energies ignored space and time, meaning they would cross intergalactic distances instantly. Nothing can run or hide from it short of hiding in another dimension. The Star Forge is a factory. That's it, and not a very good one either if you ask the Forerunners. It is powered entirely by a single yellow star, which the Forerunners wold find to be highly inefficient. Forerunner power plants and reactors operate by committing cosmic vampirism; they siphon off the energies of other universes, destroying them, and converting their energy into power for all of their technology. The Forerunners, when beaten down and near extinction, were fielding fleets with "only" 700,000 warships apiece; their industrial strength is second to none. Read: [quote] The Sharpened Shield is roughly 300 million km in diameter with a G2 type star slightly smaller than Sol at the core, with a volume of roughly 7 septillion km^3 she boasted a habitable surface area of 255 quadrillion km^2 (some 550 million times the surface area of Earth). Assuming the Shield has a paltry 2 km thick shell the overall volume of the structure would equal 282 quadrillion km^3 of material (which assuming it had a density of iron would weigh more than the sun itself); even if Didact began construction of the project immediately following the end of the Human-Forerunner war and it continued up until his exile in an 8,000 year time period as a lower limit the Forerunners would have to assemble 1,120,716 cubic kilometers of material per second. [b]To put it into accepted SW-vs-ST parlance, that's the equivalent of manufacturing the second Death Star every five minutes, non-stop, for nearly eight thousand years - or stripping away an Earth sized planet every nine days[/b]. And despite this gargantuan effort the Shield wasn't the only of of its kind, many more were built and hidden across the galaxy - and to add insult to injury not only was this a secret project, it was swept under the rug by Faber because he preferred the Halo Array. [/quote] This is what they can accomplish with a low-budget proof of concept project that didn't pan out. The Star Forge is pathetic by comparison; if it was even a fraction of the industrial might of the Forerunners, the Sith would have overrun the Republic in a week. Forerunner warships can destroy planets by accident. Precursor Star Roads can destroy planets and induce supernova just by passing through. The Vong would be cannon fodder to the Flood at their height. An all biological civilization? Sign them right up. Darth Nhilius only killed one planet; no Force User was ever able to destroy entire quadrants. Do you even know what that means? It means they destroyed 1/4th of the galaxy. The best a Force User ever did was cause an unstable star to explode by channeling his power through a special device designed to give the user god-like abilities. To the Forerunners, destroying stars is Tuesday. The Mass Shadow Generator is a shittier Precursor Star Road. The Sun Crusher is a single fighter sized ship that can be captured in a constraint field and flung into slipspace for eternity. Or the Precursors could just hack Star Wars FTL and cause the Sun Crusher to jump into an incomplete universe, as they did to the Forerunners. Mandos are irrelevant. This won't be won by Spartans, but by the literally unstoppable Precursors and their contemporaries.[/quote] As quoted by Roberto jh

[i]Death Star is 1,000,000c, you say? A Forerunner Keyship, operating at 10% engine efficiency after 100,000 years of neglect and misuse, could travel at 2,000 light years per hour. That's 48,000 light years per day. 17,520,000 light years in one year. Operating at 10% power, a Keyship can travel 17.5 times FASTER than the Death Star. And it's not even a military ship. [/i]

2,000 light years per hour is 60+ HOURS to cross our galaxy (126,000 light years) if u go STRAIGHT through the center. 2,000 light years per hour IS ONLY 0.555555x the speed of light on m/s(meters per second.) Death star is 1 MILLION X faster than speed of light on m/s (meters per second) 0.55555x 10 (90% more efficiency) is 55.555x Thats still WAY SMALLER THAN A MILLION.

[i]Can you explain to me why you think 2,000 light years PER HOUR is somehow slower than the speed of light? I refuse to believe you're this stupid.[/i] [i]With the distance light can travel in 2,000 years, the Keyship did it in one hour. Come on, you're smarter than this. 2,000 x 24(hours) = 48,000 That's distance covered in a day, in light years. 48,000 x 365(days) = 17,520,000 That's distance covered in a year, in light years. 17,520,000 x 10(to calculate speed at full efficiency) = 175,200,000 That's distance covered in one year, at full engine power. It can cross a 126,000 light year distance in just 6.3 hours. The numbers are easy. I have no idea where you're pulling your nonsense. [/i]

Its NOT SLOWER Speed of light IS measured in METERS per second 2,000 light years per hour must be converted to meters per second So ok i did it wrong; I forgot to convert light years to meters and just converted the hours to minutes and minutes to seconds Finishing the equation gimme a min ill edit it. Basically your going .55556 of 1 light year per second at 2,000 light years per hour (its still much faster than the speed of light just not a million times faster) The 175,200,000 is meters per second on 2,000 light years per hour. You must then divide the 175,200,000 by c (speed of light) to find out how many times faster than the speed of light it is. Doing that its still only .58440 FASTER than the speed of light. (60% past light speed)

[i]You're over complicating this so much, it's unreal. In one year, light travels one light year. That's where it gets its name. In one hour, light travels one "light hour." In one hour, a Keyship at 10% engine efficiency covers the same distance that light would take 2,000 years to match. So yes, it really is traveling at 17.5 million times the speed of light. At full power, it travels at 175 million times the speed of light. [/i]

Kinda but no. One light year is; 9.4605284 x 10^15 in METERS 2,000 light years per hour IS 60% (little less) FASTER than the meters per second on the speed of light. You can check by doing this; 1 light year x 2,000 = total meters covered in ONE hour Divide that by 60 minutes, then 60 seconds (so divide by 60 TWICE) then you have the meters per second the ship is going. Then you divide that by the speed of light. (Meters per seccond: 299,792,458 m/s) The answer you get is HOW MUCH FASTER than the speed of light the ship IS ACTUALLY TRAVELING.

[i]Are you even paying attention to what I'm saying? Your equation makes no sense whatsoever. I'll be as blunt as possible. Please, try and actually pay attention. Keyship is moving at 2,000 light-years per hour. You multiply that by 24 to find the number of light-years traveled in a single day. (48,000) You then multiply that by 365 to find the number of light-years traveled in one year. (17,520,000) Light only travels one light-year in a single year. The Keyship travels 17,520,000 times that distance in the same amount of time. Ergo, the Keyship travels 17,520,000 times the speed of light. (You can then multiply that number by 10 to calculate top speed at full efficiency. 175,200,000 light-years covered in one year.)[/i]

17 531 625.6 is the solution on times faster than speed of light; (Did 1 light year in meters x 2,000, [total distance traveled in 1 hour] Divided that by 60 minutes to get meters per minute traveled, divided by 60 to get meters per second, divided that by c (speed of light) got the above solution.) So yea 17,531,625.6x c exactly is that ships TOP speed then. Compare vs these speeds (already solved to X*c per ship) http://www.fatwallet.com/blog/fastest-ship-in-the-universe/ So yes than it goes faster than any star wars galactic civil war era ship, thank you for helping me see that and pushing me to double check the math and figure it out myself. Thank You.

[i]Don't forget, the ship was only operating at 10% efficiency. You'll have to multiply that number by 10 to find its true top speed of ~175,000,000c On the list you provided (which is fascinating, by the way), only Daedalus, Spaceball 1, Planet Express ship, the TARDIS, and Heart of Gold are faster than a Forerunner Keyship at full power. [/i]

The Death Star is a space station that destroys planets. A lowly forerunner grunt did the same thing just to spite his boss.

The death star holds an armada fleet of star destroyers on board, several planetary invasion size armies on board, it can cover vast distances at 1million + TIMES the speed of light and blow up a planet in one shot. (1 star destroyer has enough fire power to level a planets surface btw)

Yeah, a lowly forerunner grunt with basic forerunner construction equipment has just as much power as the Empire's prized weapon. Death Star has no chance.

Your talking about 1 being vs several hundred thousand if not 1-2 million; Deathstar IS NOT just a planet destroying cannon, it is a shielded, armored, FTL equipped (max speed over 1million X the speed of light) battle station containing an ARMADA of planet leveling battle ships AND nearly countless 1-6 man star fighters and marines and soldiers! 1 dude with some tech vs a INTER GALACTICLY MOBILE battle-station with hundreds of thousands of planet leveling battle cruisers AND a nearly countless battle force! An your hedging your bet on THE SINGLE BEING?! Can that 1 being stop or evade incoming fire from EVERY DIRECTION all at once? If not IT WILL LOSE!

You're not seeing my point. It's not just one dude. This one dude has the same destructive power as your super weapon, and there are billions like him.

So what? Im not even talking about the planetary destroying laser array on the dang ship, im talking about its mobility, man power, armor, shielding, and battle force. Your also forgetting the EMPEROR, who in; The book of the sith; States IN HIS OWN WRITINGS( written by author from Sidious' PoV) he can maintain force maelstrom on the battlefield INDEFINITELY and re direct any incoming energy or matter to WHAT EVER IS SHOOTING AT HIM in the form of force lightning or throw. Also in the EU through deep meditation Sidious could destroy or manipulate STARS and SYSTEMS physically WITH HIS MIND, and stars and systems ARENT even confined to his OWN GALAXY.

You're not understanding. There are billions of forerunners, each of which has the destructive capability of the Death Star [i]at least[/i]. Your stormtropper armies will fall like ants. You let star destroyers will drop like flies. The emperor will put up a fight, but he will be fighting against impossible odds. That's not even mentioning the precursors.

And YET they had their A5535 kicked by spartans (GMO 12 YEAR OLDS) armed with PROJECTILE AND FRAGMENTATION weapons (In halo 3 Master Chief fights the forerunners AI tech and in the end a forerunner I thought, i could be mistaken but yea)

That was one forerunner, and Chief had the help of Cortana as well as another Forerunner, the Librarian.

Help or no help; the one forerunner was killed by a GMO 12-16 year old with combat training and projectile and frag weapons (procure on sight for everything else) A sith could do it with out help if thats the case or 2-4 jedi, no problem.

The librarian gave master chief the ability to win. That's the only reason he won. Here's an actual quote: MC: "Can I beat the Didact without it?" Librarian: "No." Plus, you need to catch up on your lore. Chief was 12-16 at the beginning of the Human-covenant war. Halo 4 takes place years after it ended. This shows how little you know about the lore. We haven't even started talking about the precursors yet. Forerunners would win, but precursors would utterly stomp.

I saw the cutscene; heads up; anybody as capable as MC given the same item could do the samething. Im aware he was older my point was hes not as experienced as say a 30 year old jedi master general clone war veteran