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8/28/2015 11:28:58 PM
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[quote]What caused the tension between shax and lord saladin?[/quote] We don't know yet. In speculation after the battle of twilight gap enemies of the darkness encroached upon the city walls. This was the battle of the six fronts, a front for each of the six entrances into the city. Each location was lead by a commander, these six commanders were later remembered as the Iron Lords. (Timir, Felwinter, and so on.) The Titans were in charge of the city's defense, lead by Saladin. His tactics could have been questioned by Zavala and Shaax, yet carried out anyway. If they didn't agree with his methods that could have caused the tension. We don't know so this is all theory on my end. [quote]Explain how some guardians became the iron lords.[/quote] Hmm, it would seem I already touched on that above. Well the not to repeat myself too much the Iron Lords were in command of each front. There were several others in this fight, one of which was a titan Exo. Saint-14, lost in battle, his body never recovered, his helmet is all we have left of him. We were outnumbered and outgunned in this fight. We would have lost if it weren't for a group of scavangers who pillaged the battlefield remains of twilight gap. The armor shards were reforged and created into Gjallarhorn. That weapon was mass deployed to each front and turned the tide of battle and we survived, but it was too late. The traveler still went inert. This again is speculation, we don't know. [quote]List the unique powers and or weapons awoken have.[/quote] The Awoken have the same capabilities as Humans do. The Awoken [i]are[/i] Humans. The only differance is us as guardians have powers a ordinary Human or Awoken don't have because we have been reborn in light. Anyway at the rise of the Golden Age Humanity ventured into the stars as far out as the astroid belt. There we colonized, when the darkness came the Traveler expelled it's light and pushed back the darkness as far as it could. This force brought disaster to the astroid belt. The torrent of light and dark became the reef. The Humans that were caught in the wake of this catastrophe were forever scarred by it. They bacame the Awoken from the fallout and they rebuilt what they could, the vestian outpost. When the fallen came for the traveler the Awoken fought them. The ones that though all was lost fled the reef for earth. This act was seen as defiance and the queen called back her people only once to be forgiven of there fears. Some returned, however the Awoken that stayed on Earth were forever exiled from the reef as cowards. That is why Reef Awoken don't like Earth Awoken.
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  • Certain awoken can look into the future. The prince's crowd can literally turn into crows. And the last thing is the massive machines of war the awoken have. I forget the name of them. Anyway it's also open to interprotation that Petra died at some point and was brought back to life by the queens "witches" Also I'm pretty sure shaxx wanted to make an assault and saladin wanted to stay and defend. Shaxx went out against orders and they lost people but it was successful.

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  • Edited by Ruin Tree: 8/28/2015 11:45:25 PM
    Some factual errors here. Six Fronts came before Twilight Gap. the Gjallarhorn was not mass deployed, it was gifted to the Gap's survivors. Saint-14 died in his crusade against the Fallen in the wake of Six Fronts. We don't know the commanders of the four Orders present in Six Fronts. The Traveler had been inert since the Collapse.The Awoken, especially the Queen, do have strange powers.

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  • Do we actually know what happened to saint 14?

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  • I was actually incorrect about that one thing: we don't [i]exactly[/i] know how Saint-14 died. But it is very likely he died during his crusade against the Fallen

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  • I see. Sucks because it would have been nice to have more exo's around since it seems all of them that we've heard in amazing stories are either KIA or not known where they are. Speaking of exo's. Know the sigificance of the number in their name?

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  • How many times their memory has been wiped

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  • correct!

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  • The only thing we know about the orders is there is an order named the order of chain that fought at six fronts, and that's all

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  • Like I said, all theory and speculation. My interpretation, yours along with anyone else's will all vary. Until we have a book or something from bungie saying this is what happened and this is what is going on. We won't truly know. Like the Bible, Quran, or the Veda we can all read the words and interpret them differantly.

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  • What I said is all in the grimoire and gear flavor text

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  • That is open to interpretation.

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  • Six Fronts did happen before Twilight, Gjallarhorn was not mass deployed? developed. and was a gift. Saint-14 we dont have confirmation on. Commanders we dont know anything on. Traveler inert since Collapse, the Techeuns have powers, Crows MAY have powers. but nothing showed Mara having powers herself. everthing except for the Techeuns powers etc has been confirmed by Bunige in a recent Game Informer article (obviously not knowing Saint-14's status and the Commanders havent been confirmed in any sense) But Techuens have powers, that's not interpretation.

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  • Unless it clearly states it

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  • What part of "in game text, grimoire, and am actual Bungie conformation is open to interpretation. They are literally telling you. Its like when people say Dark Souls has no story. The story is told in the descriptions of items. You need to look into it. They wont spoon feed you the answers.

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