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Edited by Wheeze:
8/28/2015 7:49:32 PM
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I mean, I can take a shot at explaining the difference, if you really want to, and this is coming from a former Catholic.
There are something like, what, 1.2 billion Catholics in the world? In the Western world, Catholics and Christians in general are not exactly a marginalized or maligned group, and generally occupy positions of respect and power. If you were a Catholic/Christian in Syria or somewhere like that, this would be a different story...
Transgender individuals, on the other hand, make up an extremely small portion of the population wherever you go. They are largely maligned and misunderstood. Up until very, very recently, a transgender individual couldn't even "come out" as such. Even now, doing so puts them in extreme danger. In the United States, depending on where you live, discrimination against transgender individuals is even permissible under the law.
So, no, it's not really the same. It's called "punching down."
Now, I think OP is overreacting, but I also don't find anything funny about North's joke, nor jokes about transgender individuals in general.
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I understand your point and the number you use for Catholics worldwide sounds about right but you and I both know that the number is truly about half that if you consider who is an active or practicing catholic. Remember, joe Biden and Nancy pelosi are both catholic but don't subscribe to the tenants of the church. That being said, even though the Catholics comprise the largest percentage of Christian denominations, they are often the most maligned Christian group, at least here in the states. The number of Catholics in Europe and the U.S. Is still higher percentage wise than other denominations, but have been an afterthought in our society to the point where we are considered a cancer to progress and all that. I would argue that a catholic person in our culture is considered, at least by more liberal sided folks, to be no different than an extremely conservative person would consider a transgender person. Maybe I'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be a huge difference, and regardless the double standard that we ought to have a thicker skin than transgender folks and should just suck it up because there are so many of us is an unreasonable argument for people to make. The dignity of the human person remains, regardless of association.
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I agree that historically, Catholics have had it the relatively rough in the US, but that's changed since Kennedy, and also, more specifically, since the Conservative movement found it useful to ally themselves with Catholics following Humanae Vitae. As a progressives views towards Catholics/Christians, as a self-subscribed progressive who associates mostly with left-leaning individuals, I know very few people who think of Catholics or Christians like that. Progressives fight hard for the Freedom of Religion of all individuals, Catholics/Christians included. Where we likely differ is our attempts to limit the imposition of someone's religious beliefs unto another, but that's a substantially different argument for a different time. However, I believe my comparison still stands. I'm not saying you can't or even shouldn't be offended, but last time I checked, there aren't many Catholics/Christians in the Western world committing suicide due to the way they're treated and perceived by others.
