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I imagine that as a catholic man, I have to constantly put up with the countless priest/kid touching jokes and making fun of us as whatever jokes we hear about believing in fairy tales or whatever. And that is by our societal standards, just fine. You can buy a Halloween costume of a pregnant nun or a creepy priest or even a mask of the pope and it is supposed to be fine. We should realize it is a joke and not be so sensitive. However, a joke about a transgender man/woman should be grounds for major banishment and prevent a man from working ever again. And the Caitlyn Jenner Halloween costume that is for sale on major Halloween retail websites should be banned because this is somehow damaging the credibility of safety or whatever of transgender folks. Please explain the double standard and I will gladly try to understand the position of such liberal minded mambo jumbo. Oh I forgot, not liberal minded, open minded. You care about all people. Except people who dint believe the same as you. I got it. No explanation needed.
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  • Edited by Wheeze: 8/28/2015 7:49:32 PM
    I mean, I can take a shot at explaining the difference, if you really want to, and this is coming from a former Catholic. There are something like, what, 1.2 billion Catholics in the world? In the Western world, Catholics and Christians in general are not exactly a marginalized or maligned group, and generally occupy positions of respect and power. If you were a Catholic/Christian in Syria or somewhere like that, this would be a different story... Transgender individuals, on the other hand, make up an extremely small portion of the population wherever you go. They are largely maligned and misunderstood. Up until very, very recently, a transgender individual couldn't even "come out" as such. Even now, doing so puts them in extreme danger. In the United States, depending on where you live, discrimination against transgender individuals is even permissible under the law. So, no, it's not really the same. It's called "punching down." Now, I think OP is overreacting, but I also don't find anything funny about North's joke, nor jokes about transgender individuals in general.

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  • I understand your point and the number you use for Catholics worldwide sounds about right but you and I both know that the number is truly about half that if you consider who is an active or practicing catholic. Remember, joe Biden and Nancy pelosi are both catholic but don't subscribe to the tenants of the church. That being said, even though the Catholics comprise the largest percentage of Christian denominations, they are often the most maligned Christian group, at least here in the states. The number of Catholics in Europe and the U.S. Is still higher percentage wise than other denominations, but have been an afterthought in our society to the point where we are considered a cancer to progress and all that. I would argue that a catholic person in our culture is considered, at least by more liberal sided folks, to be no different than an extremely conservative person would consider a transgender person. Maybe I'm wrong, but there doesn't seem to be a huge difference, and regardless the double standard that we ought to have a thicker skin than transgender folks and should just suck it up because there are so many of us is an unreasonable argument for people to make. The dignity of the human person remains, regardless of association.

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  • I agree that historically, Catholics have had it the relatively rough in the US, but that's changed since Kennedy, and also, more specifically, since the Conservative movement found it useful to ally themselves with Catholics following Humanae Vitae. As a progressives views towards Catholics/Christians, as a self-subscribed progressive who associates mostly with left-leaning individuals, I know very few people who think of Catholics or Christians like that. Progressives fight hard for the Freedom of Religion of all individuals, Catholics/Christians included. Where we likely differ is our attempts to limit the imposition of someone's religious beliefs unto another, but that's a substantially different argument for a different time. However, I believe my comparison still stands. I'm not saying you can't or even shouldn't be offended, but last time I checked, there aren't many Catholics/Christians in the Western world committing suicide due to the way they're treated and perceived by others.

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  • Same thing for Muslims. Sure some of us deserve it, but I honestly, as a 13 year old kid who's lived in the us all his life, don't deserve to be called a terrorist. My mother is catholic an my dad is Muslim. Literally ask any non radical Muslim and you will see that no one considers Isis and all the other dumbasses real Muslims. So how come it's fair for hundreds of tweets to go up every day about my people being terrorist and one text makes you want to ruin a mans career. Explain that double standard

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  • ;) agreed

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  • I'm sure most people do, keep this transphobia shit on Twitter

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  • Lol, cameltities. Ironic?

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  • Yup, plus I'm literally bred for heat. My mom is Dominican and my Dad is Palestinian, so people called me camel

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  • Thank you. Someone said it.

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  • There's a town in Southern England where they still burn an effigy of the pope on the 5th November and no one complains. Catholics seem to be a bit more laid back about these kind of things nowadays. Mind you, that's probably cos they're too busy getting pissed up and touching up kids to care what anyone else thinks about them.

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  • It's not your fault. It's not your fault.

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  • Good stuff. Lemme guess, the inhabitants of that rural town fvck animals and their family trees' branches connect back to the trunk, if you catch my drift.

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  • Lol not really, its just a tradition. Goes back to when lots of protestants from that part of the country were burnt alive by the Catholic queen at the time.

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  • What is, the bestiality or the pope burning? Kidding dude.

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