Defenders are great in PvE they really are but in PvP they're really bad, as seen in the stats above, I love titans and want to always play my defender class as I prefer it to striker but usually when I pop my bubble (Insert any super in the game) can kill it almost effortlessly, especially void walkers and strikers.. blade dancers are neck and neck unless they're smart enough to use their wave skill, forgot what it was called. What annoys me even more is that sunsingers, are efficiently more tankier than us. Sure we have armor of light.... if we stay in our bubble.. sure we get an overshield if we melee someone to death...but all a sunsinger has to do is melee someone once *not to mention that their melee is ranged* Their super makes them extremely dangerous while being as tanky as a bladedancer and if you were to pick the perk before self-res for an overshield, then you might aswell delete your defender, you have a better class. In pvp I honestly think defenders were like a beta test for sunsingers. That's my opinion anyway. Edit : I'm not a cry baby, I have a 1.5+ on my warlock and hunter, 1.47 on my titan xD