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8/27/2015 4:42:27 AM
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I have a question about the Harbringers and The Warminds. And my question be this. What do you imagine they look like? Have you played halo 2? If so, do you remember the Mac stations in the beginning with the super Mac cannons? That's what I imagine the Harbringers are like. Or perhaps they are sentient. I looked through the cards pretty carefully and it just says they awoken, could be interpreted either way. Same for the Warminds? Are they Defense AI's or what? I'm assuming so. Lastly. If I recall correctly, Rasputin is active (we know this) and the talk about him testing his power. Could he not stop Oryx? Or couldn't the Harbringers destroy the Dreadnaught? I mean they destroyed a Fallen fleat. Destroyed a great many asteroids. I really hope we get to see some action with them next month.
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  • The Harbingers have no AI or sentience; they are superweapons. Only the Queen can control them. From what we know, their attack seems to involve attaching a Void projectile to enemies, which then explodes. The Warminds were Golden Age AI's, the knot known surviving one being Rasputin. They fought the Darkness and failed, but Rasputin shut down solar defenses and let the Darkness in, knowing that either many had to die, or humanity would be one extinct. I'm not sure what Rasputin is doing, Oryx-wise. And since the Harbingers are controlled by the Queen, I'm not sure why she doesn't deploy them. That was probably her plan, to get close to the Dreadnaught and then release them. But the Awoken faced serious resistance and Oryx's massive shockwave weapon

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  • Edited by Soj27: 8/27/2015 5:17:45 AM
    It is also theorized thst Rasputin didn't simply turn off solar defenses, he turned them on either: A.) The earth, for the reasons that you state OR B.) The traveler, to prevent it from abandoning humanity as it did with the fallen

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  • It actually states in the grimoire that the Traveler was finished running. She was going to make a stand here because she was tired of watching her children die. But I still kinda believe Rasputin crippled her in order to release a strong enough burst of Light to push back the Darkness

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  • That is assuming Alpha Lupi=The Traveler, which does seem highly likely, but as far as I know it hasn't been proven 100 percent

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  • If you read all of the Dreams of Alpha Lupi cards, it seems fairly certain that she is the Traveler. But yes, it has not been 100% confirmed

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  • I agree that it's most likely Here's the real kicker though, assuming that Alpha Lupi does=Traveler, why should we trust it? Are said "dreams" from before or after the collapse? By this I mean did the traveler pick humanity because it actually saw something in us that made it believe it could defeat the darkness, or because it had no choice?

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