Sorta Dregen yor was a survivor on the moon like the warlock Eariana 3 when the great disaster happened He then was stuck there and starting feeling his pride fail and wanted more power his rose was Always thorn it was just a different way of looking at it also thorn 2 grim card supports this by having dregen yor be person 2 talking to 3 bandits Besides the point dregen yor went to the summoning pits where he saw xyor the wizard performing rituals that where worse than death in an ogre he stole the page from the 7th book sorrow and then the wizard started using mid tricks to get him to join darkness Things that support the paragraph are hive ghost fragment 2 and Eariana 3 interrogating a wizard on how to defeat Crota and then the wizard gave her a vision instead of talking Also his thron is a weapon of sorrow like necrocasum and bad juju making you more powerful by feeding off your emotions to make you powerful binding wielder to gun and gun to wielder just like Croats ascended sword in the dark below Hope you learned something checkout this man lore videos on YouTube [url=http://youtu.be/1XUje80g8F0[/url]