[quote]Osiris still exists, however. He is seen visiting the Reef with Eris to plan with the Queen for Oryx's coming[/quote] What card says this? I know his disciples are planing with the queen. But osiris isn't supposed to have a body considering that since he was a hezen lord or had affiliation with them he would've been trapped in the vault. Thus his going into the gates

Ghost Fragment: Queen 2 Osiris was known to be interested in Crota and Oryx, and the other Hive gods. If that's not Osiris, I don't know what is

[quote]Ghost Fragment: Queen 2 Osiris was known to be interested in Crota and Oryx, and the other Hive gods. If that's not Osiris, I don't know what is[/quote] Brother vance? He and the other disciplines are his cult and would gladly abide to any all obligations for osiris since he no longer has a body. I fathom the parables of the all spring and the disciples knew of this, and are now carrying out his orders. You'd want your henchmen to be that devoted to you right? I would. I know osiris Is looking for guardians who have reached these requirements, however I doubt that osiris himself still has a body or is even creating these deals. If he was what would be the point in vance being in the reef if osiris himself could be there. I doubt anyone would be distraught, and it isn't like the speaker could force any engagement, since he isn't at the tower. Furthermore the queen blatantly needs as many allies as she can get so I doubt she would hold any hostility.

If you read the description of him, he seems pale, enlightened, and almost shining. Eris looks at him and flinches, almost as if from a bright light.

[quote]If you read the description of him, he seems pale, enlightened, and almost shining. Eris looks at him and flinches, almost as if from a bright light.[/quote] And what luminous flickering entities pose infront of our guardians when we breach into the vault. Lost ghosts who have lost their bodies and their guardians.