That's right. It is all about the money. And if they put out a quality product the first time and delaying it a little, instead of bastardizing it they could have sold a billion dollars worth and double the people would be throwing their money at the screen for destiny 2. No questions asked. So they better get ttk right or I'll never get tricked into destiny 2 or 3 or 7. Do they want to be the rocky movies? Getting worse with each one ? Or the best game franchise of all time? But bungie as a company does need revenue to operate and make a profit but the individual programmer comes into work and gets a paycheck every week hopefully they make the right decisions and do quality work so they can sell more product and keep getting a paycheck. But how many mistakes can you make before your customers just give up with bad service and good product and goto another supplier? This is what every company in the world deals with everyday bungie is not a special snowflake and they take the risk of going out of business just like any car maker or resturant or some company that makes tooth picks. If Budweiser pissed us all off and we stop buying their beer cause it's bad they go out of business, because they must have deserved it. It's not our problem if all the employees at bungie get fired and go under. It's their responsibility to make us to want to keep coming back and spend more money to allow them to keep going back to work. Anyway just ranting

That's true. I'm just rather pessimistic on the matter. Seeing new noobs everyday makes it worse. No matter how much you guys voice out your concerns or threaten to walk away, there's always gonna be a new player to take your place and in the grand scheme of things, there could be more new players than quitters. If I had never played Destiny before and had to choose between vanilla Destiny and TTK, I'd choose TTK right away. It really has a much better system than vanilla. Most of us year 1 players are just raging over the planned obsolescence of our gear we grinded so long for and prayed so much to RNGesus for. So I fear that even with threats of quitting, TTK will still be attractive enough encourage new players to buy. And that's all that's important to them. I'd love to be proven wrong though.

But that's my point exactly. Wouldn't you want to retain your loyal customers and gain new ones? A business doesn't grow because they say -blam!- our old loyal customers we'll get new ones we don't need the old. People should be pissed because with some of the changes, for example vault space. It's not that we don't appreciate new guns but the fact that you have to DELETE your content that has been paid for. Yes a gun might come out that's better than icebreaker , but maybe one day you want to use it but can't because bungies -blam!-ed up system and you can't get it back. But it's paid for and forever gone. We still run Athion for fun even though Poe is out but what happens when there are 10 more dlcs? You never lose a gun you aquired in battlefield do you? Why should destiny be any different. We can't save raid gear. With perks for crota because there's no room? We paid for it. That's why people are pissed. were paying them so they can take things away? I could go on and on. I'm not crying. I'm arguing the point about what belongs to us and things that are ours and that bungies horrible decisions affect our destiny and our choice on how to be legend.