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Edited by DukeofHonor77:
8/14/2015 3:59:27 PM
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I agree, my fellow guardian. We need answers. We've been lab rats for the past eleven months, so where's the cheese?
Today they sold Ghally, which they said they would not do again, but they did, and why? To try to appease the few guardians that still play that don't have it or said that they were leaving because they couldn't get it? It certainly isn't a consolation prize to me or anyone I know, because we already had it. What many others, and my myself included, want as a consolation is to be able to ascend at least our raid weapons and armor in TTK.
I guess Bungievision thinks we're all young, naive, gamers, who will just take any bone they throw or way. If you're going to throw us a bone, give us a dinosaur bone, not a chicken wing, because it's insulting for those of us who've play tested this game for a year, to only be offered some cosmetics and a ship. How about $20 off TTK for starters, since their basically giving the expansion (that some of us paid $40 for buying them separately) away for free with $60 Legendary Edition.
They said today, in reference to cheaters, or people that they ban, that they have all the data on every single person who plays. Meaning that they know who has been playing since day one, and how much time we've put into this game. It shouldn't be hard to see who they need to show love to. It's simply the right thing to do to show that we are appreciated for helping Bungie get Destiny to where it is, and playing us for not giving us everything that has come out for Destiny (the expansions) on day one.
Bump.
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Edited by ambient-Isotopy: 8/15/2015 11:43:18 PMI would love this post if you didn't bring up the gjally sale. Some people feel trolled because of epeen, or maybe they feel shortchanged by all their effort to get it being measured up against the extremely helping hand being offered to people who just now preordered TTK. The gjally sale isn't the problem; it's the suggested attitude that choice is slowly solidifying. Our early investment isn't valued and without that it would just be causing a fuss over self entitlement. This xur complaint is a wimpy thing to focus on absent context imo
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My point in bringing up the whole Ghally situation is that Bungie is trolling us. If you look back at why their nerfing it, it's because that only the lucky few had it, and if you didn't have it, deuces. Now that everyone has it, why is still being nerfed?
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It's being nerfed because it set the bar too high making later weapons have to be ridiculously powerful to feel relevant. It happens all the time in early play of games. Bungie just doesnt know how to message this so they went with the elitism angle to justify it.
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They may also want all the new players coming in from their TTK purchase to feel like they have great stuff to play with now and a chance to get it easily before larger loot tables make that harder. Highly doubt they even thought at all about early adopters, going in line with what can be taken away from other recent developments, e.g. pricing disparities
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You sound like a day one guardian, so let me ask you this: remember when you wanted to do the raid, but maybe had no one to do it with or you could do it, but didn't know what to do? If this raid is what they say it is, hey, I don't care if all twenty million people who play this game have Ghallys, it will be the willingness of us day oners to show them how to do a raid. Bungie can give away the most coveted gun in Destiny, and I don't mind that, but now, they shouldn't nerf it, because everyone has it now, and it still won't help you in the end because we don't have match making for raids. If they really want Destiny to grow, it's really in the hands of the day oners, and Sherpas to get the noobs up to par, because you should know by now that if you don't know how raid, you can't beat a raid.
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Matchmaking for raids. Ugh. Have you used lfg? If you made use of that site you come to notice that there is a sizable group of typically younger players that are horrible to help out, don't take direction or don't bother to communicate. Ever had someone consistently pick up a relic and never shoot the templar or drop it on VoG hard after not admitting they'd never run it before? Try them also having no mic. It's happened. Add to that the deceptively large amount of extremely under-leveled folks looking for a carry and your matchmaking idea becomes more poorly thought out than anyone is going to successfully admit. LFG is BY FAR the only viable solution for raids. You have an idealistic or inaccurately sampled idea of the demographic you're going to encounter. They add that feature and you'll be put on entire teams like this. Think about it. Manually building a group to run with is a hassle you don't want to have to go through. The precedent of going outside the game (including official websites) is certainly present. You've noticed. What you aren't considering is the cost you've never had to avoid with being able to either remove someone obnoxious or, on the other side of it, add people that either know what they're doing or have a good heart. Anyone having a problem finding a team to run is likely feeling a bit timid at the thought of sending out a ton of party invites to people who, like them, aren't being picked up. If you're missing some unmentioned requirement and never sent an invite the service seems like a joke. Take the leap and finally send them yourself. Or alter your posts because matchmaking will break half the runs on raids.
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I've never used any outside sites because I don't have to. I have a clan, and I totally get what you're saying, because there have countless times that I've helped people run raids that had no clue what to do. My point was that come TTK, there will plenty of noobs who won't get to run the raid, even if they have Ghorn, and probably won't succeed if they do because the things you mentioned before.
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Whoa. Think I just scanned your post and went on a tangent. Sorry =\
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Yeah to be honest I genuinely think they were uninterested in gjally being one of the only used main exotics. They probably want it to retain a niche and allow new weapons to have some breathing room. I get that. Won't care too much if they make the transition succesfully and aren't just crippling it for shortsighted balancing goals.
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Think the nerf is just to make new weapons more relevant and entirely unrelated
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Yeah, personally I find the whole Gally thing to be the community being trolled, cause they're still nerfing it anyways. That doesn't really serve any point to resolve the actual problems, just like hyping up TTK doesn't detract from said problems either.
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Bump.
