Point taken. However the article you posted came across to me as very, "it's impossible for women to be sexist." Which is not a stance I can agree with and seemed to prove the post where I jokingly said only men can be sexist. Just like women don't want their daughters to grow up being told they are empty headed sex objects that should be OK with men slapping their asses, I don't want my 3 yr old son to grow up being told he is a bumbling idiot and just needs to be OK with how women treat him because they deserve their turn to discriminate now. We will just have to agree to disagree on the subject of women's power in the media. I never said they control the media just that they are granted far more latitude than should be OK with regards to derogatory remarks about men. The post which I refer to as joking was my original post for an alternative group for the bozos that keep asking to join. In which I reference the little rascals several times. I thought that was a dead giveaway that it wasn't serious. In any event I've enjoyed our discussion and hope the posts do bump your forum. Hopefully your clan is more active than all the ones I've been in lately. I'll take a closer view on women's issues if you agree to try to see how men are being unfavorably portrayed in most media outlets and in ways that would outrage women's groups if the situation was reversed. I still highly recommend Bernard Goldberg's book, Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News. http://www.amazon.com/Bias-Insider-Exposes-Media-Distort/dp/0895261901#productDescription_secondary_view_div_1439168333012 There's clearly room to improve on all fronts. Peace. (really) JPM