All the people you've mentioned are around the same skill level. The reason I don't include Turd with them is he plays trials on old gen to reduce difficulty and lies about being beaten fairly.
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Edited by amaan23.aaa: 8/9/2015 1:13:16 PMI wasnt arguing with you i was trying to support your argument by including them. I agree with what you're saying. But nerd does play sweatys against them except for wish cause he doesnt play sweats so you can compare them