But ltr on u can get the same copy with better stats in borderlands however for destiny you cant find the same vision of confluence with better stats why? Because theiy dnt do that theirs ascending however but when ttk comes out it will be removed so it is an issue and tbh borderlands way better in all things than destiny. Had emotion, lots of humor,bazillion weapons u can find huge locations and kick ass bosses. However destiny unfortuntely has not delivered this yr at all except raids but even those had an ass load of bugs and glitches in the couple months. Even the rng loot in their was broken. And now the issue here is they said we can make our own stories but whats the point of that if their taking the weapons from raids and special weapons making them useless? Oh but your rewarding yr 1 players cosmetic items we wont care for in a week? The one thing we do care about is our weapons and the weapons tell that story and its being left behind....you bungie told your fanbase u can put whatever weapon and armor you like and still (have fun) but in reality your forcing new weapons on use and expect to leave tht part of your story behind and try your new toys. However it would be better if we can upgrade our vog,ce,poe,ib in ttk giving even more arsenal weapons etc. Plz gents understand deep deep down that this cant be left behind.