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originally posted in: I am an avid Christian; AMA
8/7/2015 3:59:36 PM
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So if he allows something bad to happen, did he know it was going to happen? Was it not his will to let it happen? If god already knows, and everything happens according to his will, then bad things were predestined. You couldn't choose to do something that wasn't god's will. Your "free choice" is an illusion at that point. So, did god create sin or not? That's a yes or no question. We've already established that sin is not necessary for free will. So if god created sin, then he is evil. If he didn't, then what did? You've already bent scripture to fit your own desired outcome. The Bible says god created evil. There is not such thing as "natural evil" vs "moral evil." You made that up.
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  • No I didn't make anything up. You are theologically illiterate. I'm not bending Scripture at all. And I've answered all your questions. You are desperately searching for justification of your unbelief. http://bible.com/100/1co.2.14-16.nasb But a natural man does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are foolishness to him; and he cannot understand them, because they are spiritually appraised. But he who is spiritual appraises all things, yet he himself is appraised by no one. For who has known the mind of the L ord , that he will instruct H im ? But we have the mind of Christ.

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  • Edited by Rick: 8/7/2015 4:12:52 PM
    Nice try. Please show the distinction between "natural evil" and "moral evil." Isiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things." Your god character creates evil. You can't reconcile this with your belief so you ignore it. The character is evil. Thankfully, it's all fictional any way. Just pointing out your hypocrisy and ignorance of your own religion. "Justification for unbelief?" Seriously? None of it has been demonstrated to be true at all. No "Justification" required. Believing in things that haven't been demonstrated to be true makes you a fool.

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  • Words are hard, right? Making fallacious arguments based off of a single word from a single translation with zero context is intellectually dishonest and downright foolish. http://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html

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  • So does god create evil or not? You still won't answer that. If he doesn't, then who/what does? Does ANYTHING happen that isn't according to god's will? Why do you refuse to answer this?

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  • I've answered it many times.

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  • No, you haven't. You're just outright lying now. You haven't answered it.

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