I already stated I understand your point of view, and even stated that they should have had away to ascend things did I not? My only statements are that it will not hinder the game, nor is it abnormal for games to do this ( not ascend) thus we cannot even call it a argument. So now I am drastically confused on where you are picking up the idea of a argument when I did infact agree with you to a point. I respected your ideals, and even offered away they could allow as to ascend material, without overall handing it to us like they did with poe ( which is honestly far to easy). Possibly if you reread my statements you will notice that I had agreed, yet also derailed the argument by stating that it is typical for games of this nature to exclude guns overtime ( as explained with borderlands.)