But who is gonna do Crota or VOG when the vanguard gear is a much higher lvl? So it's not really adding it's replacing. With etheric light you have a reason to do the older raids. To me this is adding to the game. People new to the game would have 3 raids to play. Now it will be 1 raid and 2 things to do for fun a few times but that's it. If the point is to get people to play more. Why not give them more? I really like playing destiny but with the non ascending idea, I will just wait for the next dlc rather than repeat over and over again for a certain item.