I need to play the dam games and maybe read the novels to understand... and I just became reminded ofthe force harvester and dark reaper... (I think that think would tear apart the precursors and forerunners... or at least the pre- based on one persons claim on them being energy beings, byebye to one race in 5 seconds or less @_@, starwars has some terrifying doomsday weapons in it, the halo ing just as terrifying though from wat I read... :P)