What I see is a lot of people trying to express their opinions. Try dealing with people on the assumption that they [i]might [/i]have something worthwhile to say, even if they can't find the right words to say it. Writing them off just prevents you from understanding their perspective, which prevents you from understanding the total argument (in short, its liable to turn you into an ass [technical comment]). That's advice coming BTW from someone who's made a consistently good showing in this thread (usual pontificating excepted). Don't just blow it off to keep up that attitude (you aren't going to win any brownie points for sticking it to a stranger on an internet forum.)