Then that older gear is still Irrelevant. You still lose. You literally cannot win this arguement.

And ToO rewards are built around PvP. They suck in PvE. This argument should be about PvE cause PvP doesn't take attack into effect.

They suck in PvE? Do you even [i]have[/i] them? The Adept Primaries have elemental damage, and hit like freight trains; I love them, and you're crazy. XD Also- what I'm saying is that [i]all[/i] future rewards should be as desirable as ToO rewards, for both PvP and PvE modes. :) And what argument did I "lose?" I'm perfectly okay with Bungie putting out better weapons, that's not what I'm arguing [i]at all[/i]. What I'm saying is that simply increasing the damage on new gear is a cheap-ass cop-out on Bungie's part, when they should be putting out new content that's desirable [i]on its own[/i]. Again, perfect example; Trials gear. Same damage/Light Levels as the rest of the gear in the game, yet it's super-desirable. :P

FateBringer trumps all arc guns. Vision covers solar. Word trumps Void. Armour is cosmetic now as light levels aren't a thing any more. And the guns have always been great stand alone weapons in all DLCs so this is to stop comparisons and start afresh. They will make cool guns. 4th Horseman is great. NLB feels new and different. LoW is just great. QBB is just fun. We don't talk about Dregs promise.

Legendaries. Matador 64. Ash Factory. Unending Deluge III. Hopscotch Pilgrim. Party Crasher +1. Perks. Battle-runner. Icarus, Hidden Hand. Hand Laid Stock, Small bore.