I will honestly say that Destiny was my first MMO game & regardless of whether it's the right thing do to for the purpose of progression or what not...I still think the're gonna lose thousands (if not millions) players! I personally know of 9 players who quit Destiny after TDB released the minute they found out that old gear became obsolete & they all said that the grind was for nothing. When HoW came along I contacted them to give the good news about old gear ascending...none of them were interested & moved on to Elder Scrolls Online / The Witcher 3 / COD / Battlefield / GTA V And with many other promising titles releasing soon (Star Wars Battlefront / Fallout 4 / Doom / The Division...hell, even Tomb Raider & Uncharted) many players are gonna invest much less time in Destiny.