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8/4/2015 10:36:32 PM
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Christus, meaning leader, anointed one. Not Jesus of Nazareth. And really, you're just handing these to me. Josephus' account has been proven a forgery time and again, and I'm honestly surprised you heard about him before you heard about his forgery. Please look up an unbiased source before setting yourself up for failure.
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You're taking Tacitus out of context. Yes, Christus can mean "leader", but in context, it is clearly referring to Jesus. On to Josephus, you are correct that the authenticity of his account is debated, but the reference to Jesus in Book 20, Chapter 9 is considered authentic by almost all scholars.
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Yet no other writing from Tacitus attests to him and he doesn't say Jesus in the one example you have. And there is a staggering majority that suspect interpolation in the account of James. Not to mention Josephus claims he was stoned to death while Hegesippus claims we was thrown off the roof of a temple. And if these small tidbits from paragraphs written by, not even a handful, of long-dead men are the only evidence you can procure for what was apparently a friggin real life Fonz that broke the laws of nature for people to see, what does that tell you?
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[quote]And if these small tidbits from paragraphs written by, not even a handful, of long-dead men are the only evidence you can procure for what was [b]apparently a friggin real life Fonz that broke the laws of nature for people to see[/b], what does that tell you?[/quote] I never said anything about Jesus' supposed divinity.
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Fine, a delusional traveling rabbi that martyred himself then. Still would have picked up a lot more press, although granted not as much.
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Sounds like you've got a chip on your shoulder.
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Sounds like you're getting evasive. It was just a point. But I take it the actual debate is over since you've sunk towards personal assumptions.
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You began the "debate" with an assumption.
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No, actually I said I didn't need to debate you since you have the burden of proof. You countered with, you can't say that. You do realize I can go back and read these...
