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7/30/2015 8:19:50 PM
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An Open Letter to the Dames of Destiny: I Am Sorry.

Dear Dames of Destiny, While I do not normally watch the Destiny Bungie Bounty streams, it recently came to my attention through the My name is Byf video (which I have included in this post for anyone who happens to be curious), that your part in the Bungie Bounty was met with almost constant sexist and discriminatory remarks. Normally, I don't make threads of my own, only reserving that sort of thing for what I consider important, and this is the third thread I've made on the Bungie forums, period. As such, I feel a few things need to be said. First, to the Destiny Community: It comes as no surprise to me that there is still a hateful attitude towards women in gaming, but what [i]did[/i] come as a shock was the fact that people were willing to show that hate and discrimination so publicly, without any apparent shame for it. I realize that the Internet and Online Gaming, in and of themselves, promote anonymity, and in turn that gives people the power to say whatever it is they wish. That power is often coupled with complete irresponsibility and total unaccountability. That is no excuse, and is unacceptable. The fact that I have to type this in the first place disappoints and sickens me, but I suppose it has to be reiterated: In a video game, the gender of the player [u]does not matter.[/u] It should [u]never[/u] matter. Neither should race or place of birth. Discrimination as a whole is wrong, and should never be promoted. As such, anyone who sees what happened to the Dames of Destiny, and approves? You are not a part of [i]my[/i] Destiny Community, and I want nothing to do with you. If I seem like I'm parroting Byf's video and the points he happens to be making, it's simply because the point deserves to be hammered home. Second, to the Dames of Destiny themselves: For those of you who read this, and I sincerely hope you do, I want to say on behalf of my part of the Destiny Community that I am truly sorry that you had to see, experience, and have to endure that kind of utter bullshit. And I am sorry that over the past decade, it hasn't seemed to have gotten noticeably better. I hope that from this point forward, you have to deal with less and less discriminating assholes while you play online, regardless of whether or not it happens to be Destiny. And I hope that, despite everything that happened during the Bungie Bounty stream, it does not deter you from staying strong as a part of this community. [i]Sincerely, Texas Joker 52, esq.[/i]

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  • You must be new here. So, welcome to the internet, Cuckold McTipsfedora.

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    • Edited by MinimumFiend : 7/31/2015 7:55:25 PM
      Why the hell are apologizing? From what you said you have no reason to apologize. Your apology shouldn't even matter to them. If the people who made the threats and comments apologized it would mean something, but your apology means nothing. You have done nothing to them.

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    • I tuned in to that and the h8 was too much anyone who took part in that bullshit are a bunch of jackasses

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      Most people are human trash. Unfortunately for the rest of us it seems to only be getting worse.

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      • Git Gud scrub 1v1 me !!

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      • All of this, is true.

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      • This guy does [i]not[/i] speak for the Destiny community. Move along.

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        • Edited by Kabr: 7/31/2015 7:16:30 PM
          You say gender shouldn't matter, yet "Dames of destiny" sexist clan is discriminating man... BTW, you forgot the "*tips fedora part"

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          • I wish people on this forum could stop going ape-shit over almost nothing. This community is always overreacting to the smallest things, and often overreacting to things that arent even controversial. Just shut up about the dames. Whatever happened there doesnt concern any of us. Oh and while Im at it, stop complaining about weapon changes we haven't seen yet. [spoiler][b]shut the fck up[/b][/spoiler]

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            • Edited by Loot Cave Rave: 7/31/2015 7:39:27 PM
              I would like to apologise on behalf of everyone who takes it upon themselves to apologise on behalf of everyone else. I am aware that these people are only doing it in an attempt to get sucked off or whatever and am truly sorry that this is still going on despite it being at least 3 years since the internet started. Please forgive everyone who apologises on behalf of everyone else because they really don't understand how it makes them look. I hope that from this point forward, you don't have to put up with this. It's very irritating, self-f***ing-pleasuring and attention-seeking as f**k. Texas Joker 52, you are not getting a BJ from a Dame for this. You know that right? And you aren't speaking on behalf of anyone unless they have expressed their desire to you for you to do so or have attempted to do so in a way which fails to get their point across. Also, you should know that you have not only apologised for every male involved in this instance, you've actually weaseled yourself into apologising for every male in the last decade! As long as you feel you've done your job though ;-)

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              • We all know it's coming. The question is: which side will you choose? :)

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                • I don't agree with being an a-hole to someone based on who they are, if they went crazy and said a bunch of crap just based on them being girls that is wrong. However playing a competitive game ,whether it is a video game or a sport, adrenaline flows and you get pumped and a lot of people talk trash and stuff. I am always joking and ribbing people I play with. Should I not make a stupid wiener joke or something just because there are girls in the game? Should I not give them a little trash talk or just screw with them a bit because they are girls? Try to say something to maybe get in their head and make them mess up because they are girls? Everyone wants to be treated equally, yet that sounds like special treatment to me. You shouldn't have to restrict yourself or go out of your way just because there is someone different involved, whether it's gender or ethnicity. I would never be hateful or mean to anyone based on gender or ethnicity, nor will I give them special treatment by censoring myself to protect them. Anyone who plays is fair game for some trash talk and jokes regardless. People are people and unless you give me reason to be an a-hole, I won't be.

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                  • I'll just leave this here....

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                  • Edited by tresperros67: 7/31/2015 6:05:48 PM
                    I see dead wishes, dead threats, fascists, racists here on a daily base. Why did you never apologize to people that were offended by these posts? Is it because it's about dames now? Do you think they can't speak for themselves? Stop being a drama queen.

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                  • I'm starting an all white male clan if anyone wants to join.

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                    • Oh give me a -blam!-ing break.

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                    • "In a video game, the gender of the player [u]does not matter.[/u] It should [u]never[/u] matter." Yet here we are, talking about an all female clan getting harassed by some immature assholes and we're all suddenly sorry for the actions of a few that do not come close to representing this community as a whole. You can shove that self righteous shit. Posts like these do one thing: If and when there is another moment of spotlight for the Dames, you've effectively given every one of those aforementioned assholes a stage that says "if you're a dick, you'll be recognized for it." And that's all they want. Is there a need for discussion for these issues? Absolutely. Does making yourself a martyr as an apologist help in that regard? No. It comes across as condescending.

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                    • Dude you do know that the dames do the exact same right? They act superior because they are woman.

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                    • -blam!- off you white knight your lil wiener get hard typing thinking this is gonna get you a response from them hah your a joke

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                    • Edited by Paul Badman: 7/31/2015 11:32:50 PM
                      Edit: ok so obviously I don't think I got my point across very well or at all. I worded it terribly and yeah it looks terrible the way I put it. My point is I think they knew there was gonna be trolls and harassers because they're everywhere. Every streamer has harassers. So my point is I think they didn't take too personally and I think they let it go and I think maybe the community needs to as well. Sure what happened wasn't right and it's very cool that the community is standing up for them. But when the whole forum is overrun by posts of DoD stuff I can't help but feel some of them are just some very thirsty white knights

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                      • The ONLY reason people are defending them and attacking the people who made sexist comments is cuz they're female. What about everyone else who gets hate mail in this game? Where's there apology posts? I get hate mail, and now I'm mentally scarred. Care to apologize that that happened?[spoiler]P.S. I'm a guy[/spoiler]

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                        • I'm just going to go around copy pasting my standard response to this nonsense from here on end: https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/143126510/0/0/1

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                        • #blacklivesmatter

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                        • Why is there no apology to all the men who are disrespected daily? Why aren't we simply calling out anyone who disrespects anyone else rather than making a stand once it's perceived that women are being disrespected? I'm all for respecting others, but this post, in and of itself, is sexist. Women are so fragile that you need to apologize to them while neglecting everyone else who faces hate and discrimination?

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                        • I've read testimonials from other dames members and some say they are not the nicest people. Not to excuse what's wrong, but they certainly dish out their own non sense.

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                          • There will always be people out there that'll go out of their way to belittle someone for no reason at all. They aren't sexist, they're assholes. They are the type of people that just shoot rude comments about anyone. All they need is to know the tiniest thing about you, like you're a girl, or you aren't their race, or you're younger, or you're older, and they'll use that to be rude and hateful. Yes, I am sorry that such people caused up such a ruckus and hurt their feelings, but they aren't the only ones they target. You just have to suck it up, laugh in their face, and play the game. No matter what you do or say to them they won't stop. Let them post stupid YouTube videos. Let them think they're hardcore. Just ignore them. Those of you who don't belittle people and aren't hateful, you know you're thousands of times better than them. You don't need to try to prove it by giving them attention. Just ignore them and you'll have so much more fun.

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