Then a lot of your points are invalid. Not because you are new to the game because I couldn't give a monkeys about that , grimoire means nothing other than you took the time to look for ghosts with the help of YouTube. I have watched Bungie screw up auto rifles with a completely OTT Nerf that myself and others saw coming , A change that brought about the age of Thorn in PvP and an age of uselessness in PvE. I have watched as fusion rifles were over nerfed thus bringing in the era of the long range shotgun in PvP and ensuring they are now rarely used in any end game content. I have witnessed first hand Bungies heavy hand when it comes to weapon balance - This time I think they may be putting right many of the wrongs from patch 1.1.1 which as I've said is a good thing. The nerfs to Black hammer and ice breaker are not.

I wouldn't go as far to say my points are invalid, as I know what those nerfs did and I've seen gameplay. I would say I defer to you on your experience of the game. Again, it's just the griping and complaining I see about Black Hammer and Ice Breaker and Gjallarhorn etc. that really grind my gears. These changes are happening, you can petition on the forums all you want, but it's not going to do anything. I just want people to get over it.

I think they will change it. I've never seen this much commotion over a proposed change to the game. I predict a huge loss of the player base if this goes through. The difference now is that many players bought the base game and three expansions on the strength of the bungie brand and the Halo name. With money still in players pockets and players wary of bungie's value proposition after TDB and HOW bungie needs to tread carefully. Many players asked for the damage done to auto rifles in 1.1.1 to be fixed , many players wanted shotgun effectiveness reduced , many , many players are happy that thorns effectiveness is reduced. No one asked for changes to BH , IB or Ghally. Hawkmoon should also be left untouched as the chance of a one hit kill is so slim , in a weapon who's perks are all based on luck that it's almost the main identity of the gun. It's too much at a time when a lot of players are on the verge of stopping playing altogether.

I feel like those people won't stop playing honestly. It's a bluff to try to make Bungie worry about their fanbase, and I don't think it's going to work. Bungie is going to continue to do what they think is best for the game, and they will still have many supporters and players playing this game. The people who think a few changes to overpowered weapons are going to ruin the game are shallow and can go back to playing Call of Duty.

Only time will tell , But something is very different this time. People have deleted characters and weapons on Youtube , many clans have disbanded - of course some are just bluffing but just looking at My friends list and the amount of people not playing Destiny any more tells me that the mood of the player base has changed. Halo 5 is just around the corner for XB1 players too , and it looks good - and You can bet your bottom dollar 345 studios will be watching the mistakes Bungie are making now and taking notes for the future. Bungie ( And more specifically the weapon balance man John W ) have proven time and time again that what they think is best for the game is often wrong and the direction they think it should be taken is often misaligned. Bungie assumes the player base is made up of 15 year old kids and they'll do as they are told , however the age of the average gamer worldwide now is 36 years old - These guys are the ones paying Deej's and Johns wages and these guys can think for themselves and if the goalposts of a product are constantly moving - fatigue will swiftly set in.