[quote]It just means while you were out looking for ghosts they were running raids and crucible and actually becoming a better player in skill rather than on paper.[/quote] that's why I brought up medal score, you have little experience and/or are bad at the game. Nobody gives a shit if you played day one, for all we know OP could have too. I've seen people who have all vanilla legendary gear with 1900 grimoire. I've seen a 34 with 1900 grimoire. You can't judge people's skill level based on their characters level, maybe back when VoG was relevant but not anymore. And before you try to tell me I wasted my time getting good on paper and not the game, look at my medal score. It's high because i play crucible and am a id say above average player. I'm don't agree with OP in any way but there's no need to bag on him for having no 34's. You could've just said "we haven't even played them yet besides e3, wait till TK and give it a try."