Nearly 1000 hours played between my four level 34 characters (yes four, deleted one of my hunters to level a warlock...), a Grimmoire score of 3550, and every exotic in the game EXCEPT the one I have wanted the most since day 1. Hawkmoon, one of the PS4 exclusives...
3 nightfalls a week, regular raids on all characters, hundreds of top level strikes, PoE, ToO every week on all three characters flawless...
Xbox users will start getting theses so called "exclusives" before PS4 players. You know, the weapons that were supposed to be perks / bonuses for playing destiny on the PS4... What's the point if you can't get them? Everyone knows that as soon as they unlock the PS4 exclusives for Xbox users, that someone is going to immediately do a nightfall or open a legendary engram and get Hawkmoon, which is BS. The past 100 exotic rolls that I have had, have been guns that I already had drop.
At this point, it's just deception. "Let's market PS4 exclusives that are AWESOME to have, but the best one out of all of them, Hawkmoon, the most coveted and sought after gun, we'll make it impossible to get!"
obviously it's a ploy to keep players playing and searching for this illusive prize and another reason for Xbox users to come back to the game once the "exclusives" are available to them. Because, they market and sell PlayStation exclusives as something awesome and desirable to get. However, never in their marketing or selling did they mention that although PlayStation exclusives DO exists, they will be impossible to get for some players due to the weighted RNG system.
If Bungie can make Gjallarhorn disappear from Xur's inventory when it shows up by mistake, then they can make him sell Hawkmoon to PS4 players. How hard would it be to create another NPC in the tower that sells PS4 exclusives for PS4 players? I don't care if the requirements are super involved, even if it was a crazy long quest line. EVEN if I had to pay real money for the damn thing, I would.
The "R" in RNG is not equally weighted.
For a simple example: if there were only 10 total exotics in the game, and Hawkmoon was one of them, one would expect to get one on average every 10 drops.
But if the system is rigged so that Hawkmoon only has a 1% chance of dropping, and the other 9 a 11.1% chance of dropping, they can keep you chasing it for a long time.
Then, once you get it once, the odds to get it again can be reset to 10%, enhancing your odds of getting it again sooner.
So while it is still random, the system is rigged to keep people chasing longer
So, weapon odds are different for everyone, making it unfair as we all paid the same damn price for this game.
And for all of you scrubs that will just respond by calling me a name or attempting to make fun of me behind your computer screen - I'm gay, I like dicks, I take it in the ass mouth ear, I'm a fgt (wtf is this?) and you have all been with my mom, I cry every second of every day I'm a big baby bitch -blam!- and of course I like dicks (again, for emphasis), Oh and yes I am a salt factory, that's all I do.
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My buddy has had like 5-6 Hawkmoons drop, ask him if he feels the way you do.
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I don't see where you offered evidence that RNG is biased. Granted, it very likely is but how is this confirmed? Someone can still get a hawkmoon once it is released on xbone without rng being weighted. Just like someone can win the lottery the first time they ever play. Or get a gally as their first exotic.
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Ooook.... You know they did mention the words " playstation Timed Exclusives" right?... Is you just jelly that myself an Xbox player will soon be able to gain a weapon or two that you just haven't managed to get yet cuz of rng? Aww poor bby
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RNGesus is just all up in your ass man. Just keep trying, you'll get it before us dirty Xbox users if you just keep trying!
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I have all of the PlayStation exclusives...you're just unlucky my friend. I'm missing 4th horseman but that's all.
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You didn't confirm shit. Except that you can cry.
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OP's pretty stupid to think all this
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LOLOL.....the "random" in RNG is broken. You don't understand RNG
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Confirmed, op is a bundle of sticks.
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Still false. I've gotten 6 of them. Happy hunting
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You have a 35% chance of not getting a 1/10 item given 10 chances.
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Gotten three hawkmoons two Monte Carlos and two fourth horseman.
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I don't want the guns to be just handed to me.
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3 hawkmoons 4 monte carlos 2 4th horsemen
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Understand the post and the grind for that one missing gun... [spoiler]4th horseman here...[/spoiler] But some are more rng lucky no matter if it is manipulated rng or not... Just a game and like real life, everything can happen
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Edited by Trexus: 7/27/2015 5:48:08 PM-sigh- so let me get this straight. Because you play on ps4 and you can't get Hawkawesome to drop the game is scam? And because some x1 players will get them before destiny players the game is broken? What about the people who can't get g-horn? If g-horn was an exclusive then it would be a scam, but since it is available to everyone it's not? Welcome to rng friend. Also it isn't 1,000 hours it's closer to 600 Wait. I just go b8ed... Fantastic. GG op, GG.
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Im in the same boat my friend just a little less time played but i do all my raid, nightfalls, ect. Every week
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i have obtained 3 Hawkmoons. So I just think RNGesus likes to be a dick sometimes
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I'm primarily an x1 player but have started leveling up my ps4 account. Just did my first nightfall on my hunter this week and got a Ha...Ha...Hawkmoon. Pretty excited to see what all the fuss is about.
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Please see Websters Dictionary for definition of Confirmed. Also, 1000 hrs is NOT a lot! Stop wasting time posting this silly script.
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I'm why do you play so much lol go outside them what can u complain about
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I disagree. I got my hot moon when my Engram thing leveled up to level 10. Not so hard to get.
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A company that produces a game and makes money from it to pay their employees wants to keep us playing? Wow, what a surprise!
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Do you know what "confirmed" means?
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One thing that is simply not up for debate is the nature and intent of Bungie's RNG system. Behavioral Game Design 101. Getting drops gives you a shot to the pleasure center of your brain. So yes, RNG is made so that you want to keep playing, pursuing that White Whale, if you will. If this was not the case, then they would have included a game economy and a trading system, like the one in Elder Scrolls Online. Any rare item is available in that game, if you have the currency to pay for it. People who are smart witted learn to make money buying as selling crafted items, and therefore become good at getting their hands on rare gear. Destiny is a slot machine, pure and simple. You either accept the odds, or you play something else.