You'd have to be super dedicated. I'd wager a guess that players willing to put in that much time are not the same players having a hard time getting enough Etheric Light. I have no research to back that up, just a guess. [quote]Yea its 20-40 hours of work to hit rank 5 in iron banner[/quote] That's like a another job. I don't want a job, I want entertainment and I sure don't want to spend that much time doing it.