Ok, just To let the reader know, this is gonna be long, and I guess I am complaining but not exactly, and it's not about Bungie or Destiny, but the community of this game (that includes in-game and forums people). Ive had enough. I've been in gaming communities before. I'm in a couple of them. But this is the saltiest, most idiotic, disgusting, mindless retarted community I have [b][i][u]EVER[/u][/i][/b] seen. Let's go wayy back to when the Suros Regime was at it's peak. Everyone loved it and hated others who used it. It was basically The Thorn of its time. People complained, and complained, and complained, until all auto rifles were nerfed. As soon as that happened, a flurry of Suros users raged like mad, for months. Hold on, let's look at that again: everyone asked for a Nerf, and then everyone asked for a buff not long after....WHAT THE HECK IS WRONG WITH YOU?! ITS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ASKED FOR! Next thing people complained about were abilities. They said blade dancer was "unfair" and the same with all the others. Apparently, if I get killed by a super (by the way that was intended to kill you), I can go to forums with a reason to whine. Class wars are stupid. Each class has different abilities. If you are complaining about something that's too "OP" to you, guess what, you're just a scrub. Skilled players don't complain about that. Skill beats everything. If you pay attention, maybe you would realize that any of these classes/subclasses can be the best with skill. It's the same with weapons. Listen, I'm so bad at crucible that I got killed by a level 3 using an auto rifle while auto rifles were NERFED. Guess what! I didn't complain. After this update, I STRONGLY think there should be NO NERFS OR BUFFS AGAIN EVER UNLESS NECESSARY. Anyways, the whining continued. For months. Eventually people started using thorn and TLW realizing the power these two weapons had. More and more people began to complain about these weapons asking for nerfs. Also people complained about final round sniper and gjallahorn and wanted those nerfs too. Guess what guys! They answered your requests with what you wanted. After the update what is the first thing I see? "What the heck bungie scrub lords can now hold the trigger and win! Bungie you're dumb! You're stupid!" - say that to yourself. How long did people ask for a buff? And now they're complaining again? This happened with final round snipers as well. "Final round is stupid PLZ nerf" - as soon as they're nerfed I saw a thread yesterday: "How am I supposed to use my final round sniper? It's useless! Come on bungie! That's not fair!" And the same thing with Thorn and TLW. "Nerfing Thorn isn't fair". Alright so I've watched this bull crap for months on forums. So many times I wanted to tell all of these people how stupid they are. But the level of stupidity was so bad I couldn't even reply. But do you notice a pattern? No one can make up their mind, "A House divided cannot stand." I watch forums. They're a sea of mindless idiots who cannot pick and choose permanently and always want to win, and when they can't, they complain like children. I want everyone to shut up. And I really mean it. If you see this thread don't ever make a complaint thread EVER AGAIN. You all complain about how bungie doesn't develop the game just how you want it. This game was designed by a massive company, and this game was designed for the masses. All in all this is a summary: 1: the community is messed up and non-decisive 2: bungie actually listens to the community, which is a not so good one, which causes bad decisions to be made by bungie 3: complainers come again to criticize the latest decision 4: repeat 1-3 See how it just starts over? There's no point. And not only that, but everyone expects too much from this company. These poor guys work so hard to develop the game and then go to feedback to see what everyone has to say and they get an overwhelmingly negative wave of whine threads. Don't expect bungie to prepare this game just for you. If you don't like it shut up and get another game. Just play the game and enjoy it, if you can't enjoy it then return it, and never come back to these forums. And Bungie, just to let you know, I love this game the way it is. And I just want to say you guys lived up to your 10 year hype - I really mean it. But don't listen to just anyone. And now the actual game. I don't really have problems with the game. Although I think some things may be a little bit too difficult but for the most part it's the people you play with. If you are LFG 24/7 like me and have found barely anyone who will play VOG or something with you then this community will be a nuisance. No one recruits. People are so screwed up that I will go Into control and one or more of these things will happen: 1: at least 3 players inactive the entire round 2: no one captures zones and acts like its clash, which causes us to loose. 3: lag switching. And I mean a TON OF IT. People everywhere are lagging on purpose. It's absolutely criminal. So crucible is hard to enjoy because I just get t-bagged on by a bunch of slap-happy-lag-switching-idiots who think everything they do is funny and a joke and don't care about anything. It really wasn't intended to be that way at all and we know it. I'm not complaining, I'm pointing out errors in what's been happening these past months. And I've watched carefully. And I am so sick of this I have to let it out. By the way, don't call me out for "complaining about complainers" or being a "crutch user" or "scrub" because I'm none of those. Don't waste your thoughts. Because I give zero thought to those comments and what people think about me means absolutely nothing to me. And unless I feel like I should, I won't argue with anyone. Hear me out though, I'm not trying to be a jerk and call everyone idiots. I only want the best for this community and game. Wake up destiny community, let's revive what was once a special place.