Yes, I did get that you were baiting me - your reply was too well thought out to be the usual troll post, just thought I'd give a friendly nudge in response:-p I was expecting a lot of abuse from the fan boys though, guess it must be their day off. I'm pretty much where you're at with regards to playing Destiny. I'm only on a couple of times a week now and then it's either for clan activities or to help out some random who's messaged me because, frankly, there's nothing left to do. Otherwise I'm playing Dragon Age and will be playing ESO soon (kinda looking forward to the FF7 reboot though). As for TTK, if I buy it at all it'll be a used copy of the Legendary Edition; Bungie've got enough money out of me. I'm not a big fan of PvP either and I'm certainly not very good at it. I do, however, understand their frustrations and refuse to jump on the PvP vs PvE bandwagon; both aspects of the game are broken and until the infighting stops and both sections of the community unite against Bungie its going to stay that way. I'm not opposed to weapon balancing either - there's a real need for it in this game. Unfortunately, Bungie seem incapable of approaching the issue in a rational and reasoned manner and just end up pushing people into relying on the latest OP weapons. Maybe before they finalise these updates they should have volunteers from the community test them in game play and see how they work for the people who actually play the game. Happily, this update isn't going to have much of a negative effect on me; I'm very versatile in my use of weapons, have a wide and varied selection and I don't rely on any crutch weapons. I'm also looking forward to introducing the post TDB players to my Shadow Price;-) You're absolutely correct about the forums too - I usually entertain myself during my breaks at work reading them. But I do believe that a lot of the ranting is borne out of frustration at Bungie's disdain for the community and the way a game with so much potential has been squandered. I also know that my crusade won't make a blind bit of difference, but they've been trolling me for the last ten months so its only fair I return the compliment. Maybe I'll un-mute Deej and start posting my own weekly updates on Bungies epic failures to address the issues that matter to the community on his "welcome to the forums" post (assuming it;s still there). Just a thought.