This read will not be for the average joe gamer upset with the changes. Well it's here, the announcement of weapon changes 2.0 Let's think about what we know currently. Ill go over just a few major weapons. Black Hammer: 3 percision shots in succession result in an immediate 3 bullet refill. Gjallarhorn: Wolfpack Rounds, creating a seperate set of explosives to rain down upon the enemy struck by the rocket (or ones near). Thorn: 7 damage DoT, not to mention its great range capabilities. Hawkmoon: Like thorn with great range capabilities, more importantly the chance to hit from 95 to a very rare one shot kill. Icebreaker: OTR ammo, currently set to 5 seconds per. These 5 weapon nerfs seem to be quite complained about. Let's think about it from how we use them, and how we accomplished maybe to much with them. Black Hammer; If you're like me this was generally always equipped during Vanguard strikes. Allowing myself, and any teamates with it also, to finish off bosses abusing an endless rain of massive damage critical shots. Further more, the concept you could infinitely stun lock a majority of the bosses through this tactic. We should all be in agreement that this tactic was extremely over powering to the bosses themselves. Making it to easy. We cannot say what Bungie intended by giving us the perk, it was quite obvious to me its usage upon seeing it the first time. They are changing it to change what we do now, to what they, the game makers, envision. Gjallarhorn: I need not go into this weapon. I am just as sad about its nerf as the rest of the owners who are. I do not blame Bungie though. This weapon, like the black hammer, out classed all other weapons, in their respective categories, for taking down a boss. So much so that a majority of players began to rely on it. While there is nothing wrong with that, it is just not what Bungie had intended. Thorn; Most of us understand how this weapon works to its fullest capabilities. With its impact increased, percisiom damage of 84 is dealt to enemy players. Making 2 shots deal 168 damage. While that by itself allows a third body shot to finish a kill, it was not needed due to its DoT (damage over time) of 7 per tick. This weapon, aside from the one update that reduced poison to 3 or 4 (sorry for my bad memory) has always had this capability. It became popular once given 9 rounds, and a faster reload. Myself personally used it before that buff due to the fact it was still the most over powering and underused weapon of its class (exotic hand cannons). This is a change that should be clear to players, giving others no chance to fight back. Hawkmoon; Why this weapon was ever used more than the 6 shot, slower reloading, 100% chance 2 shot kill thorn is unknown to me. What we do know is that it can, in very rare circumstances, one percision shot kill an enemy player. That in itself did seem unfair, but yet so rare that it wasn't much of a bother to the majority of players based on their complaints of its power. This nerf should be self explanatory. Bungie felt in no circumstances should an exotic hand cannon be one shotting. Seems like a more fair than not nerf. Icebreaker; This is one that players are also extremely outraged by. This weapon has been [abused] for activities such as oracles, and other bossing tactics in locations of damage free zones. Now I would not go as far to say, abused personally, as others have clearly on reddit. I would however say that we used it to its fullest potential of keeping us alive from afar. Now this is the only nerf that makes sense, but also confuses me. Increased regeneration time would have me less likely to use it, if there were another weapon of its kind with a faster regeneration. As for changing the real purpose of it, which we use it for mainly, staying out of a battle with unlimited ammo, not much will change. Ammo will still regenerate, the concept is the same. (I personally have no used Icebreaker since the black hammer came out, even in situations where Icebreaker was more efficient) Hopefully this is a better explanation from a players standpoint. Things will change, they always do. If you're like me it bothers you, but not enough for us to completely miss the point Bungie is trying to make. In the end Destiny is their creation and not ours. We help them mold it, and show them their errors just by playing. This is not deserving of a reward because the reward is Destiny itself. This is more than any of us could have ever asked for. If you made it this far I would like to thank you, and wish you a great rest of your day/night.

Or, just have Xur just sell the fcuking thing already.

You realize that: A: Your wasting your time. B: People would still "riot" over this bullshit C: See B.

Less Wolfpack rounds?

ballerhorn too strong, been using it as a primary in raids, need to use other weapons, forgot what other weapons look like, icebreaker used to conjure more primary ammo, other yellows affectionately referred to as "decoration"...help

The power of the weapon is not the reason for the nurf, the given reason for the nerf is the fact that people have been locking others out of content for not having one Now nerfing it may make people look at other weapons and say "hay that's just as good as Ghorn" on the other hand it could make things worse It's all about mind set and there are some weapons that are just as good, even better when comboed with others

5 Rockets, I think you're sleep talking. The Hunger of Crota with gives more Heavy holds 6 rockets. ROFL. Ghorn is an exotic, it's supposed to be "better", if it holds less than HoC, something's wrong.

It doesn't define the game, every Nike product has a swoosh but did I read that only 30% of players have a Gally? Bungie have made it iconic, but in gameplay Gally is niche and unbalanced, one player with one in a boss encounter wraps it up quick leaving everyone else nothing to do. A lot of folk complain about lack of content, gally diminishes the content further.

Leave it alone

Post patch I'm only playing with other Ghorn owners as a way to protest

best way to dealing with gjally? DONT touch it and buff the other fu##ing rockets. god bungie your giving birth to the strongest elitism ever seen into a game with this patch

Best way to deal with Gjally: leave her the way she is.