People who complain about these weapons obviously don't understand that it doesn't take away the grind. It still takes about 45 minutes to take done skolas and in crota if you don't have someone who can run sword then it's pointless. I have 3 level 34 characters. I just now got the gally and blackhammer. They aren't must haves but they should still be something players look forward to having and it being dominant. I also understand why guns would be nerfed in pvp but they need to leave pve alone enough said