I really don't see why this is getting nerfed at all. Who can convince me? It makes no sense...
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It was better than many exotic weapons
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Edited by IcyShogun: 7/19/2015 6:38:22 PMMost likely because there're numerous big, dumb, stationary bosses with huge crit boxes in ttk. Makes me even more apprehensive about ttk
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Because it takes a minute to take down a tank and basically avoid the fight. They don't want that which is understandable. Will still have to use synth and can still do it but let's be honest firing off 40 shots in a row without moving just felt like I was cheating lol
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It took the place of Ice Breaker. If you were here since the beginning, you would know that IB was king of Snipers. Now it's just, there.
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The BH was very situational. Only really great for slow moving or stationary enemies. That makes me wonder why they even bothered nerfing it? Yeah, it was great against Fallen Walkers, Tank Bro, and Crota boomers but other than that, it was just a low ammo, slow firing sniper. I'm thinking they might've nerfed it because they nerfed the IceBreaker. They couldn't leave BH as it was after the IB was nerfed.
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Edited by Jokerman: 7/19/2015 7:34:56 PMThink about it it has hive disruptor on it the next raid is hive. They are just trying to make the next raid harder. Along with lvl34 raid and a somehow lvl 36 boss. More artificial difficulty. New raid is gonna suck and they know it....
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Its a cheap way to kill bosses duh
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Well... You could take down the hardest boss with only three bullets in your clip if you're really good
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Every strike boss, with the exception of Omnigruuu and the flayers (I assume), became a pushover in the face of it, even Atheon. The archon priest in particular was reduced to a stagger-trained disgrace. It was a legendary special weapon that had the potential to out perform the Gally in certain situations. It still will have crazy levels of DPS, but it'll no longer be infinite, and you'll have to use a synth (the horror!) in the worst situations to keep going. I'm sure that my group will still be able to kill Atheon on the first pass of Vengance before anyone runs out of ammo, and the archon priest will still be stagger-trained for days. It's still good. Please calm down.
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In my opinion black hammer was only ever good on certain bosses. The problem with it was you could shoot forever at those bosses without ever having to reload. Look at it this way for those bosses black hammer will still be the highest dps sniper with 18 continuous shots. Add increased special ammo armor perk to that. I don't understand the icebreaker nerf though the sniper isn't even that good anymore compared to other snipers.
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Ice breaker is exotic level. It's ability to have endless ammo makes it an exotic and the time it takes for the ammo to regenerate is to make it not over powered. Black hammer is a legendary so shouldn't be able to compete with ice breaker but it does. It has infinite ammo with no need too stop firing at all as long as you chain precision hits, which on most bosses isn't hard at all. It will still be a godly gun, like 18 shots without having to reload is still pretty amazing, and then it's just a case of picking up a couple special ammo and your good to go again, the nerf isn't really that bad...
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I'm not thrilled about this Black Hammer change but i understand it cause white nail breaks the gun! On bosses, (steadier c/spots) B/hammer is extremely efficient, quicker & as we all know outperforms our beloved exotic sniper we've grown to love! Om a sidenote: I have found Black Hammer to be as useless in C/E as Found Verdict is in VoG in imo. White nail= Only good for orges and possibly Crota, but R/launchers has always been the norm. Found Verdict= Oracle Disrupter, on a shotty?? Really? Snipers & scouts are the norm. Yet F/verdict is a great pvp shotty while B/hammer is a great pve boss killer.
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If Black Hammer was an exotic, it might've been fine. But it's a legendary.
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Lol black hammer was better than icebreaker. It should have been exotic but as a legendary it was to powerful
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Nightfall. No burn. What sniper you using? Blackhammer No Ghorn? Then Ice Breaker. That's why.
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Makes any other sniper obsolete. Encourages cheesing. Itl still be perfectly viable.
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They nerfed the blackhammer (and icebreaker) because when we used them, we hardly used anything else. They want us to use a variety of weapons without completely destroying the ones we were using
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I'm just as livid and unhappy about the next guy on Black Hammer's nerf. But I do think I know 'why' they did it. It pretty much made every new lengendary sniper obsolete-- PvE speaking, why use any other sniper besides BH or IB for 98% of situations? They possibly nerfed these two to try even the playing field for other snipers that I constantly overlook and dismantle because of the two TITAN snipers. I don't agree with this move, but I have come to that conclusion on why they'd nerf them both.
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Basically the only good excuse from desticles that ive been getting is "because bungie said so and im a good little boy!"
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Because they want you to use snipers that have the perk that returns a single bullet when you get rapid headshots.
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It could have been fixed by getting rid of perfect balance and increasing its recoil. That way, it would take a skilled person to consistently land 3 precision shots. Also shorten the time for being able to have the white nail perk activate.
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I know this is stupid of me to say, but I think it's the strikes and raids fault, not black hammer. Why? Because if you're a player like me who's played destiny for the full year, you're probably gonna want to get through any activity as fast as possible. Maybe if this game had more than 6 strikes I wouldn't get so bored and speed run through it with black hammer.
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It's a legendary gun with exotic like capabilities.
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You guys are literally so stupid I have to leave this thread and never come back
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It out-performed an exotic sniper capable of regenning ammo.
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Raid legendaries being better than some exotics I'd perfectly fine imo. A lot of exotics are kinda bad. Agreed.