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7/17/2015 12:48:48 AM
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Can someone seriously justify the Black Hammer nerf?
I really don't see why this is getting nerfed at all. Who can convince me? It makes no sense...
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10 RepliesWhat other sniper can you hit 18 shots without reloading, None. It will still out DPS ANY sniper. I agree with the nerf 100% because Black Hammer is currently acting like an Exotic.
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10 RepliesEdited by CaptxnChaos: 7/20/2015 3:37:42 PMBlack Hammer is a legendary raid reward, but it is still a legendary. Having infinite ammo as long as you can keep plugging a target with precision shots really doesn't sound like a legendary weapon, that sounds like some exotic tier power. I think that this change really makes it a true legendary weapon that isn't too overpowered but still has viable use. They even gave it more ammo since you cans no longer have infinite rounds. Obviously some people will disagree but to those of you who do, I ask you to look beyond your personal gain and look at it objectively.
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I think it is because it was too effective against bosses.
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It's a legendary sniper rifle. Weapons that have infinite ammo potential: + Icebreaker + Invective + Bad Juju All exotics. There is the crux of the problem.
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It made nearly every boss fight a joke. Perma stun lock on the highest impact sniper in the game that still has good stability. That being said, it needed a different nerf. Lower the impact (to prevent perma stun) and decrease the stability to make it more challenging to get the free ammo. Still a great weapon and unique weapon in the right situations, but more in line power wise.
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You all are babies, the nerf isn't gonna kill black hammer you scrubs. At least bungie wants there players to be good. Thanks bungie
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It's perk was exotic tier. I guess they wanted to knock it back down to legendary.
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Skill hand ....not need unlimited bullets against almost all bosses to stun lock. Justified.
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1 ReplyThey want to nerf old things so you use new things. I don't know anyone who willingly uses an arc six dreg pride over a fatebringer. That's what bungie want to avoid from happening again for ttk.
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Edited by jareids: 7/20/2015 4:11:19 PMIt will still be the only sniper in the game that you can shoot continuously uninterrupted. And it still has the one of the highest impacts. They just made it so that you can't shoot it endlessly. But it's not a big deal. Yes black hammer is fun. Yes we will miss it. But objectively, being able to shoot endlessly and continuously without losing any ammo is the sign of a broken weapon. I remember when I first heard about how black hammer works, and I couldn't even believe how good it was. It didn't even sound right to me.
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4 RepliesI believe it's cheese proofing TTK, that way you can't sit back and snipe oryx/ strike bosses until they die or gjally him down, they want to emphasize the mechanics more in the future and this is just making sure they can't be easily cheesed through
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Padding in-game play time. It's the only metric they ever talk about for months and months.
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1 ReplyThe point of the patch is to balance. Black hammer is the only PvE sniper you should ever use as of right now. That isn't balance. New patch will allow different snipers to shine in different situations. PvE in this game is already stupid easy. At least they are adding some variety to it. Everyone and their mother runs fatebringer/found verdict or black hammer/ghally in high level pve content. There's no reason not to. And that isn't balance, it's boring.
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1 ReplyPeople use it. So it must be nerfed. Bungie logic
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1 ReplySo bosses are not so easy
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11 RepliesBecause as it sits its the only choice for a pve sniper that makes sense and if a guns that good it need balance
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Is 18 shots really not enough for you? Kill stuff with black hammer, when you run out kill stuff with primary and heavy pick up more special and keep killing stuff with black hammer. It's not hard
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Because # Devil walker # nightfall # solar burn
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It amazes me how people are so blind that they agree with everything that bungie does, if bungie decided to nerf all weapons and make all of us reset our characters to level 1 I bet they would agree with It and say it's fair , holly shii you guys have no shame and are nothing but followers
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It was a boss slayer. That's why. Everyone who has it knows it to be true . It sucks for sure but u should have seen it coming
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Edited by Snow: 7/20/2015 3:43:26 PMBecause the White Nail perk never said it's supposed to give you infinite ammo, only that the magazine automatically refills. See Bad Juju as an example.
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3 RepliesWhat's the big deal? You'll have 18 rounds in reserve and 3 in the chamber, unload all 21 rounds without missing (no reload animation) then pick up some god damned secondary ammo from the floor???? It's not an issue, however increasing the recharge rate of ice breakers ammo by 65% is an absolute jest, soon it will either be collecting dust in my vault or being turned into a shard to max hard light...
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2 RepliesIt pulls from your magazine instead of thin air. I am okay with this, a sniper isn't meant to be used exclusively.
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It's ok I never got to use it pre nerf and I get it, you can get good shots in and disintegrate Any boss when it was only meant for boomers on hard mode at lv 32 I still think it should give us one free round per mag 18/3=6 mags I think 6 free rounds bringing it up to 24 which is standard buff from gear with hold more sniper ammo, would be very fair
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2 RepliesChange the white nail perk to 3 consecutive hits instead of precision hits and then it may make more sense to just simply reload your weapon for you. I don't give two shits about an auto reload for the time it takes for 3 precision shots. The cool down between shots is pretty similar to a quick reload spec anyway. Just an idiotic move on bungies part. To the people saying its at an exotic level, get the -blam!- with it. EVERYTHING is on an exotic level because necro sucks ass. Does that mean everything should be nerfed? Raid legendaries are SUPPOSED to be end game elite content. Something to chase after and earn. They are BETTER than exotics because you can equip other exotics or all three raid weapon slots and have powerful useful guns. The comparable to exotic argument is laughable at best. Give any other defense to its nerf and I would love to talk about that maturely. But don't waste my time with idiotic exotic arguments.
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Bungie are crying coz we beat all their crappy unimaginative bosses too easy. Instead of patching the Black Hammer/ gjallarhorn they should just design more interesting boss mechanics, the prison bosses are the worst bosses in any video game. Boring bullet sponges who just throw minions at you constantly. Yawnz
