If you complain about Thorn, you have every right to. Are you lacking in skills? Most likely.. Did that last statement make you skip right to replying without reading the rest of what I'm writing? Maybe. [b]fact.[/b] Thorn has emerged to be the strongest in the creations of the Destiny universe for wrecking other guardians quickly. [b]More Facts.[/b] Reality=Mental/Mirror/Holograph Protip: The universe only buffs. Buff [b]yourself[/b], don't wait for the outside to get nerfed, it never will. Even if the outside [i]seems[/i] to get nerfed.. You will still struggle. [u]Therefore[/u], the amount of good you have to get to wreck someone using thorn, while you are not using thorn, is quite high. The evolutionary process of getting good will eventually create momentum in the pvp community and actually create a scenario in which the power of the player will out power the crutch of thorn. Without it being nerfed. At that time people won't even remember that thorn was op for a while, and look back on their not good selves, and have a good laugh. For the simpleman, I'm basically saying that so many people using thorn is actually strengthening the community, skill or otherwise. It may not feel like it now but trust, darkest before dawn. Yes, I use thorn in trials, if I feel the need. it's effective. Get smarter, get better. erratic first post ftw For those who might mock the kd, watch my clips lol.. have a wonderful eternity