[b]Edit: [i]OLD POST from week 2 of HoW pre-nerf when Qodron was 34 boss. That's why this post is about level 33s[/i][/b] My fireteam and I got out asses handed to us today. Let me start by saying, we were all level 33s, but very capable PvE players. I can solo Crota, nightfalls, and I've soloed both weeks of PoE 32. I can't speak for the others in my fireteam, but they weren't any less capable than me. We made it through the first 4 rounds with relative ease. We even had great teamwork going during the fallen section, 2 of us alternating constant bubbles, spawning tons of orbs, and the other guy using golden gun with celestial nighthawk. Borderline dominant. Had a couple wipes here and there but it was not a struggle whatsoever to make it to Qodron. .....then shit hit the fan. Before we knew about Qodrons Eye, we started shooting the detainment shields when they showed up, just like any VoG vets would, and didn't come close to bringing them down. So obviously we learn that we have to go kill his eye to get the buff. It's was still nearly impossible to take the shield down. We could do it but barely. And the hardest part was just finding Qodrons Eye in the [b]MASS CHAOS[/b] going on around us. Seriously Bungie, did you really need to put that many hobgoblins???? 2 snipes killed us, and we were getting shot at from all directions. A lot of the time, we couldn't find him in time, and then when we did find him, we died trying to kill him; leaving us very few chances to even break the detainment shields. And then ANOTHER eye spawns immediately with more ads?? I thought we would at least get to finish off a wave a deal some damage to Qodron before trying to find another eye. Nope. It was constant. Spent so might time worrying about that, when do you ever get enough time to deal damage to Qodron? After over half an hour of wipes, and still didn't make it past the second eye spawn, we gave up. It was just nuts. I've never seen something that seemed so insurmountable. We only had 2 GHorns and even with weapons of light, 14 rockets only took him out about a 5th of his health. So doing the GHorn burn strat just was feasible. [b][u]TL;DR[/u][/b] [b][u]Way[/u][/b]too many hobs. [b]Way[/b] too many other ads Had a hard time with detainment shields even with the buff Only 2 GHorns. Seriously, has anyone been able to beat this as only a group of 33s? If so, please let me know how. I'm not going to try again tonight, but I'd just like to know.