Really? You couldn't come up with an original response so you use mine? Lol that's...cool I guess. I made good points so you just reversed them. Look, PvP isn't that hard. ESPECIALLY in Destiny where there is no variety. Everybody uses the same tactic, the same gun, the same play style. Some cheat to make it through it, some don't. The points you brought up are moot. Most games are difficult. That is why people post videos on how to get through it. They do the same for PvP if you hadn't noticed. Though you might be shooting a "bot" as you say in PvE, it's still something that can kill you very easily that you have to use your brain and resources to get around. You learn it just like you learn how other players work. I mean I haven't played the Crucible that long, but even I can predict the way people will behave. It's not hard. It's challenging, yes. But, like I said, it can be learned and adapted to. Go play Demon Souls or Dark Souls and tell me how easy it is. Make it through Borderlands on Ultimate Vault Hunter mode and tell me it didn't take any skill to do that. I wasn't trying to bash PvP players, I respect them for being able to put up with that frustration. I'm just asking you for the same respect. It isn't necessary to wage such wars.