Ironbanner, crucible or even the trials. Thorn, TLW or partycrahser/felwinter. These are 90% of the loadouts used in destiny PvP. Where is the old pvp? Back in the beta it was so much fun, everything was balanced. Even in the first 3 months after release it was really fun and you new ut was made by bungie. But what is going on now? In my opinion it just got broken by all these OP weapons or the blink/shotgun. This feels more like CoD in my opinion than the "real" destiny. And dont blame cuz you think im just a noob who doesnt own these OP guns. I own all of them and of course i use them, otherwise you would get a KD of 0.2 every game. I am player with a KD of 2 but it would be all much more fun if bungie would make some changes here. They should use theire experience form halo. They know how to that. Just my opinion and Feedback.