I actually enjoy warframe, the grind is real, trading possible, micro transactions are possible but not required, the community is awesome and helpful, devs actually actually care about people, unfortunately the game is not even close to have the amount of players destiny has Destiny has the worst community ever, spoiled little rats everywhere, devs kinda care about people by making the game easier and nerfing everything on their way, this is why destiny has more active players right now If you don't like warframe because you didn't understand the mechanics of the game, then it's sad you can only play a game that is constantly being nerfed to satisfy people's ego but it's fine, nobody is perfect