They are PvP oriented, they should be more specific to PvP and less viable for PvE.
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Edited by Whiskerknot: 6/30/2015 1:33:13 PMThey are good in PVP but elemental is useless for PVP and they could of had PVP related perks. I would have designed guns with stats that could not be matched but no elemental so the guns would be great in PVP but not so much PVE. For POE I would of done the opposite. Elemental guns but stats not as good as ToO guns. Of course right now they are neither and just garbage.