A lot of us have great guy friends that we game with often. That doesn't lessen the value of an environment safe from the risk of male to female harassment that many, many of us have experienced in gaming. It seems like a lot of folks assume that just because a woman's a member of an all-female clan, she hates/fears/refuses to ever play with men. Not only is this unfounded, but I find it speaks more to the insecurity of the speaker than to the reality of this group. For the guys who are, as you say, actually smart, they already understand the value of a group like ours and don't feel threatened by the existence of a space that isn't theirs. So, no, I honestly don't understand your point.