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Edited by Mike Lawrence:
6/25/2015 8:03:07 PM
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So Now We Pay for the FREE STUFF?!
Ok, so let me get this straight. Bungie has seen the error of its ways and decided to make this up to us by charging veterans an additional $20 (beyond the $40 upgrade) for content the new players get for free?!
That doesn't seem like a good deal to me. I'm stunned. Somebody tell me they didn't just do that.
They just told us "I'm sorry for joking about over charging you. Now get out your wallets! The free stuff is for sale!"
Someone please show me I'm wrong. I really want to be wrong about this.
[b][u]UPDATE[/u][/b]:
Ok, the nerd rage over my FREE statement needs to be addressed. I am using the word FREE as in “free shipping” I understand Milton Friedman and the laws of thermodynamics. That is not what I’m talking about. Yes, I know FREE SHIPPING isn’t free for the seller but it is provided at no additional charge beyond the MSRP to a consumer to entice them into making a highly profitable purchase. The reason I claim the digital content as FREE is because I know the physical parts of the $80 package cost money and involve a ton more man hours.
Let’s pretend a designer making $50 per hour spent a full week building these cosmetic additions. That’s about $2500 in salary and let’s not worry about the electricity the computer consumed since it probably would have been on anyway. If 1 out of every 20 players that bought the base game about a year ago buys this package that comes out to $00.0025 cost per download to sell at cost. Does anyone seriously not see that as FREE? Does anyone seriously not see that as aggressive markup if we are being told that is worth $20? Ok, let’s be fair and add in bandwidth and say $00.005 as the cost per million sold. Now same question.
[i][b]UPDATE 2:[/b][/i]
So I’ve devised a plan to kill off all the internet Rage Queens and here it goes. Get an 18 wheeler and fill the trailer with half-starved Grizzly bears. Attach a wireless hotspot to it (to attract the nerds) and paint a sign on the side that says “become FREE LUNCH for a hungry bear!!!”. Nerd Raging assholes will kick that door down just to tell the “retard” inside that there is no such thing as a FREE LUNCH. Problem -blam!-ing solved!
[b][u]UPDATE: [/u][/b]
Mad H0use just won the internet with a very reasonable post on the pricing subject.
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/133298164/0/0]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/133298164/0/0[/url]
Great post I want to share. I don't really agree but the writer is very articulate and friendly.
[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/133385359/0/0]https://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/133385359/0/0[/url]
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1 ReplyEdited by Mike Lawrence: 6/25/2015 7:59:01 PMHere is a quote from further down the thread. It's important that everyone answer this before you and I can really have a foundation point to start the debate. [quote]I sure hope so. Agree or not I have mostly enjoyed reading your posts over the last few months. Let's start here. How much of the CE is the physical stuff worth? I don't need an exact figure I just need you to understand the difference in cost between physically manufactured items and digital items. There is a reason everyone is trying to make everything electronic. It's cheap, really cheap. The mega corporation can only exist in a digital ecosystem. The digital is pure extremistan (to borrow a term from Nassim Taleb) it cost less to produce than a physical item and its value is completely decoupled from the cost to make it. The cost to produce it is only the cost of labor. Physical items like, printed books, have a very definite cost and a relatively stable markup. I promise you that the cost to manufacture of of the CE printed material is far higher than the cost of the digital items. They aren't giving you the CE printed materials for free you are paying for that. The price difference between the regular Destiny and the CE is $20. The price of the digital material on its own is $20. So by your reasoning all the value is in the digital stuff right? No. Answer is no. The cost of labor to produce those shaders is in the fractions of a cent when measured at the scale they will be selling this package. The physical stuff has to be manufactured over and over again and the costs pile up. The digital stuff shrinks rapidly in cost per unit. Bungie just assigned that price and because it is the highest price they think you will pay. It's an insane price. What makes this frustrating is that they did this as a PR move to show that they weren't money hungry. It shows the opposite.[/quote]
