So Thorn is completely and utterly broken and it is ruining my Crucible experience. So in protest of the Trials being filled with Thorn spammers I am boycotting it. I already skipped it this week and I did not miss it. If you wish to join me that is great if not thats your choice, if your just going to say that I suck or that I should get "skills" you can go fornicate with an iron stick.
P.S. Remember Bungie has a fetish for everyone doing everything and using everything so not doing or using something will cause them to freak out.
Edit: I am adding my suggestions on how Thorn and TLW can be balanced without giving them the AR treatment. Both guns need to have Perfect Balance removed and Thorn also needs to loose Send It. Thorn should also get [u]either[/u] its damage [u]or[/u] its RoF [u]slightly[/u] lowered, also its damage over time should be lowered to 5 [u]if[/u] its damage is [u]unchanged[/u] however to compensate the DoT should deal double damage against minions of the Darkness. TLW should have its range statistic actually match with its range as it is currently much higher then shown (personally I do not have a problem with the current range it just needs to be shown).
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Stfu quit crying noeone cares thorns an exotic it was made for reason u pathetic sack of shit
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Listen here....I'll take a team of all Thorns over a team of all shotguns any day of the week. People who are good with shotgun sliding/rushing are the most aggravating, especially the cream of the douche crop...the blink shotgunners.
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Stupid biased poll is biased. And stupid. [spoiler]honestly though grow up, it's not that big of a deal. Just play normal crucible and practice. Its fine as it is. Its damage output has never changed [/spoiler]
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ive been using TLW and ive gotta say that i hipfire 50% of the time but i agree the hipfire glitch with aiming is broken like seriously a 96 damage headshot while aiming? they need to fix that to make it more balanced and i can deal without oerfect balance but that wont be taken away ahaha. f*ck thorn tho, i used to use the shit out if it in pve when i was a noob havent touched it in pvp very much it sucks to me in pvp.
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Edited by Dooodley: 6/24/2015 10:23:31 PMWhy ToO sucks: #1 Complete lack of proper skill based matchmaking #2 Netcode #3 The current PvP meta, this includes Thorn and shotty whoring. #4 Destiny's gimmicky gameplay #5 The shittiest maps Bungie has ever produced.
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Yeah, Thorn is the problem. Not the overwhelming number of lag-switching cheats though, they're fine.
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No it's not. Besides I see as many as if not more Hawkmoons and those Guardians are just lucky with Rng. Thorn at least has to be worked for and isn't a random drop, therefore can essentially be obtained by all which would be the closest thing to bringing true balance to pvp.
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well remove shotguns and final round snipers if that's the case.
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It takes some measure of skill.. Leave the gun alone.. I have 365 Thorn and I am Shite with it..I run Hawkmoon, or Fatebriner.. Combined with LoW or Party Crasher
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I hate how people adress thorn as the reson ToO and Crucible sucks, because that's only a fraction of the reason. All exotic handcannons aside from Hawkmoon are unjustly more unique than any other exotic in the game, and it makes them the go-to primary weapons in crucible. They both need to be inspected, not just thorn. Yes, there are counters to these guns, but those guns aren't nearly as powerful as the others. For example: I use the Multi-Tool in crucible a lot, and it works well against thorn (you can't kill what you can't hit lol), but the Last Word guns anyone down because of that fire rate. Bad Juju is a good compliment, since it hits like a truck, but there's no way for it to stop Thorn or TLW. Lastly, map choice. For trials, they need to have well-balanced maps in the rotation. Also (and this is just my two cents), I think teams should swap sides every round: it would make it more interesting and give both sides the same advantage. However, it would also put an element of strategy into the matches: if you like side A better, heavy round is next, you're 2-0 in the match, and you'll spawn on side B for said heavy round, you might purposely want to lose that round just so you can be more comfortable with our heavy spawn.
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The Messenger is definitely the best gun I've ever had for PvP. It just wrecks everything except The Last Word in close range. I was an avid Thorn and Last Word user but no longer.
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*Nerfs thorn* cries about TLW *Nerfs TLW* cries about Hawkmoon *Nerfs all HC's* Cries about Red Death * Nerfs Red Death* cries about The messenger * Nerfs all pulse rifles* Cries about Vex mythoclast *Nerfs all fusion and auto rifles* cries about shotguns *nerfs shotguns* cries about snipers *Nerfs snipers* Cries about w arlocks *Nerfs w arlocks* cries about all subclasses *Nerfs all subclasses* cries about no weapons being useable. Im sure your smart enough to know there will always be top tier weapons, just your choice if you choose to use them.
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You are so biased.
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Pulled Thorn out of the vault and slapped it on my warlock. Went to trials with easy mode activated. Two quick shots to the dome, button up, rinse a repeat. It was so ridiculously simple! Nerf this PoS crutch so I no longer feel the need to "fight DoT with DoT".
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I wish the was a boycott whiners option.
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Auto rifles. Nuff said
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What is it, 60% or something like that use thorn in ToO? Way too many people use it suggesting that it is OP.
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DJ-Sentinel_Soul
Drums, Bass, and Devour on loop 24/7 - 11/22/2024 11:47:41 AM
I boycott the ToO because I suck at 3v3 tactics, and I lack the etheric light to ascend my favorite weapons. I dislike the Thorn (strongly), but if weapons were better balanced people would feel free to try different weapons. -
Why do people keep posting about the thorn. Is there nothing else to talk about. Use it, don't use it. Either way just stop talking about it. #holysh!titgetsoldseeingthesameposteveryotherdayofthesamecrapwhenwillitstopbecauseevenifitdoesgetnerfedsomethingelsewilltakeitsplaceandkidswillwineaboutthatto
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Anyone ever tell you that you cry a lot? Guns not broke they're just better than you.
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No it's not you kids are so -blam!-ing whiny. Use a thorn or last word. Use a red death or messenger they 2 shot as well, Jesus Christ there's other 2 shot guns stop being bad and bitching and boycotting a gun because you're trash. Learn how to play properly and get first shot or know what you're doing it's not that difficult. I get killed more by last word than anything.
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I am boycotting ToO for reasons other than Thorn.
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Hawkmoom and Praedyth = All enemies down.
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I'm selling it soooo....
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Not boycotting ... But thorn is stupid OP
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Oh ya I'm on board w this