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Hardline was butchered by players and critics, it sucked. AW from what I have seen isn't that great, keep hearing Titanfall references, which sucked.
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Hardline got old really fast, and AW was decent, but as you may notice by my name, I have insanely high hopes for BO3
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Vonderhaar had been listening to our needs, some say. I hope there's another nuketown map, if it hasn't been revealed ready.
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Edited by Andy: 6/12/2015 2:44:13 AMthat's my point. these games were supposed to be major competition for destiny but really did no damage to it at all. I know this sounds crazy but do you think there will be a squads type mode in BO3?
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Because they were so bad, it was all hype. Destiny is a solid FPS, it falls way short on all the other things it was supposed to be.